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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    This one is like repeatable Expert dungeons; it's not content that promotes sustained engagement. Also not all the maps are recent.
    Secret Temple of Uznair is more recent than HoH
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    Seriously? Most of Gold Saucer content is not recent.
    Mah Jong is, Air Force one is, and you have new prizes (Mounts, orchestrion rolls, cards, etc...) added periodically.
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    I do not consider current tier EX primals as 'casual' content.
    Understandable
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    Fair enough, but maxed this out as well.
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
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    Not really recent and also, it's just one rank? Captain
    We periodically have new dungeons available. And captain rank was released after HoH
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    Dependent on an FC. Not solo friendly.
    Solo and casual are not the same
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    How long is this supposed to engage players for?
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
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    It's cool content but there's not much to it besides a little bit of story/free gil?
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
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    Only if you have a house/apartment/are into interior design/into crafting housing items.
    I wouldn't say it's that complicated to have at least one of those, and what you "are into" is another topic
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    Not recent content. Also some of those achievements are in Eureka.
    It doesn't negate all the ones that aren't in Eureka.
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    Not recent content.
    No, but the rewards of wondrous tails are upgraded each time there is a bump in ilvl, so you still have somehow of a "recent" reason to go there. And the content included is also updated from time to time.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Casual in terms of time spent/skill level and perhaps people won't count this, how soloable is content.
    Personally, I wouldn't count soloable as casual, since it's fairly easy to find a party for pretty much everything in this game.

    To get back to my repeated:
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
    If you seek something that will keep you engaged for months, you saddly won't really find in there. Since this game is mainly casually oriented, most content can be cleared with very little overall playtime. So you'll always clear content faster than they release it. And in fact, even if you're a hardcore raider, you'll also have this problem eventually. The good part of it is that you'll also never fall far behind everyone else if you decide to take a break from the game.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-17-2019 at 06:37 PM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you seek something that will keep you engaged for months, you saddly won't really find in there. Since this game is mainly casually oriented, most content can be cleared with very little overall playtime. So you'll always clear content faster than they release it. And in fact, even if you're a hardcore raider, you'll also have this problem eventually. The good part of it is that you'll also never fall far behind everyone else if you decide to take a break from the game.
    And this I think is the crux. As I've stated previously:

    Eurkea has multiple zones/numerous and varied rewards and is designed to engage players for a long time.

    To me there seems to be no similar 'casual friendly' recent side content.
    All the 'casual' content that we've brought up examples for, with the exception of PVP, are not on the scale of Eureka.

    I don't mind that Eureka exists or that people like it, even if the participation rate is low according to the Lucky Bancho census.

    I just think there should be 'casual' content on the scale of Eureka as it would serve a wider audience.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 02-17-2019 at 07:12 PM.