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    IMO Eureka is for casuals because you can play it casually and aren't really required to commit to some type of schedule for clears or drops. You can literally drop into it when you want to and leave whenever. However I classify players into casual, semi casual, hardcore based on their normal amount of play time per day. Not by some perceived skill level.
    I think the current method for leveling in Eureka Anemos is do challenge logs and hop on the NM train?

    If you try to do this solo as I've, you'll find it extremely time consuming. It seems faster and that there are more options to do ARR/HW relics.

    5. Treasure Maps/Canals Of Uznair
    This one is like repeatable Expert dungeons; it's not content that promotes sustained engagement. Also not all the maps are recent.

    Eurkea has multiple zones/multiple rewards arguably some of which have nothing to do with previous FF games and seem to have been placed in there merely to incentivize players.

    6. Gold Saucer
    Seriously? Most of Gold Saucer content is not recent.

    7. Four Lords storyline (Arguably also Seiryu EX, depending on your level of "casual")
    I do not consider current tier EX primals as 'casual' content.

    8. New Special delivery client
    Fair enough, but maxed this out as well.

    9. Blue Mage
    Hmm, this seems to be a whole different can of worms. To me leveling BLU would be the same as leveling other jobs.But for now, I'll count it as casual content.

    10. GC Squadron
    Not really recent and also, it's just one rank? Captain

    11. New exploratory missions
    Dependent on an FC. Not solo friendly.

    12. New crafting recipes
    How long is this supposed to engage players for?

    13. Doman Enclave
    It's cool content but there's not much to it besides a little bit of story/free gil?

    14. New Housing Items
    Only if you have a house/apartment/are into interior design/into crafting housing items.

    15. Achievement Hunting
    Not recent content. Also some of those achievements are in Eureka.

    16. Non-ranked PvP (Let's say Ranked is not "casual")
    Fair enough. I PVP for farming marks and stuff.

    17. Wondrous Tails
    Not recent content.

    5. Treasure Maps/Canals Of Uznair
    6. Gold Saucer
    8. New Special delivery client
    9. Blue Mage
    10. GC Squadron
    11. New exploratory missions
    12. New crafting recipes
    14. New Housing Items
    15. Achievement Hunting
    17. Wondrous Tails
    To clarify further, all of the above quoted stuff, yes there have been new additions. However, these are iterations to existing content, rather than new/recent content.

    Only PVP stands out.

    Eurkea has multiple zones/numerous and varied rewards and is designed to engage players for a long time.

    To me there seems to be no similar 'casual friendly' recent side content.

    Casual in terms of time spent/skill level and perhaps people won't count this, how soloable is content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    This one is like repeatable Expert dungeons; it's not content that promotes sustained engagement. Also not all the maps are recent.
    Secret Temple of Uznair is more recent than HoH
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    Seriously? Most of Gold Saucer content is not recent.
    Mah Jong is, Air Force one is, and you have new prizes (Mounts, orchestrion rolls, cards, etc...) added periodically.
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    I do not consider current tier EX primals as 'casual' content.
    Understandable
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    Fair enough, but maxed this out as well.
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
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    Not really recent and also, it's just one rank? Captain
    We periodically have new dungeons available. And captain rank was released after HoH
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    Dependent on an FC. Not solo friendly.
    Solo and casual are not the same
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    How long is this supposed to engage players for?
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    It's cool content but there's not much to it besides a little bit of story/free gil?
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
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    Only if you have a house/apartment/are into interior design/into crafting housing items.
    I wouldn't say it's that complicated to have at least one of those, and what you "are into" is another topic
    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Not recent content. Also some of those achievements are in Eureka.
    It doesn't negate all the ones that aren't in Eureka.
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    Not recent content.
    No, but the rewards of wondrous tails are upgraded each time there is a bump in ilvl, so you still have somehow of a "recent" reason to go there. And the content included is also updated from time to time.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Casual in terms of time spent/skill level and perhaps people won't count this, how soloable is content.
    Personally, I wouldn't count soloable as casual, since it's fairly easy to find a party for pretty much everything in this game.

    To get back to my repeated:
    That's a different problem than casual/non-casual
    If you seek something that will keep you engaged for months, you saddly won't really find in there. Since this game is mainly casually oriented, most content can be cleared with very little overall playtime. So you'll always clear content faster than they release it. And in fact, even if you're a hardcore raider, you'll also have this problem eventually. The good part of it is that you'll also never fall far behind everyone else if you decide to take a break from the game.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-17-2019 at 06:37 PM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If you seek something that will keep you engaged for months, you saddly won't really find in there. Since this game is mainly casually oriented, most content can be cleared with very little overall playtime. So you'll always clear content faster than they release it. And in fact, even if you're a hardcore raider, you'll also have this problem eventually. The good part of it is that you'll also never fall far behind everyone else if you decide to take a break from the game.
    And this I think is the crux. As I've stated previously:

    Eurkea has multiple zones/numerous and varied rewards and is designed to engage players for a long time.

    To me there seems to be no similar 'casual friendly' recent side content.
    All the 'casual' content that we've brought up examples for, with the exception of PVP, are not on the scale of Eureka.

    I don't mind that Eureka exists or that people like it, even if the participation rate is low according to the Lucky Bancho census.

    I just think there should be 'casual' content on the scale of Eureka as it would serve a wider audience.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 02-17-2019 at 07:12 PM.