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  1. #31
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I think assize is currently too much. You literally cant run our of MP as a WHM ever. Even death is not really an issue anymore...
    It would actually be nice to have a MP sharing spell at this point so we could help a revived healer/caster
    It's more Thin Air / Lucid Dreaming making it that way. I'm not sure people use Assize for MP recovery at all.
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  2. #32
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    It's more Thin Air / Lucid Dreaming making it that way. I'm not sure people use Assize for MP recovery at all.
    I think that that's one of the reasons Assize should be always on cooldown.
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  3. #33
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    It's more Thin Air / Lucid Dreaming making it that way. I'm not sure people use Assize for MP recovery at all.
    Well I did not have much mana issues before but it just made it even scarier.
    In 2.0 if I saw a WHM at full mana mid-fight I would be wondering if he is doing anything but now I easily get back to full mana during fights as well.

    I just think that if we keep all our free healing (assize / tetra / thin air / lucid / plenary / asylum / benediction) we should really have a skill to give it to someone else.
    I almost feel guilty... XD
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  4. #34
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Outside of most role actions, which we all know need an overhaul, I've been thinking about my own ideas for updating the healers, and rather than post each one in it's respective topic, I'd like to keep them all together for comparison's sake:



    White Mage

    Cast time for Cure reduced to 1.5s.

    Freecure upgrades:
    Freecure chance for a free Cure II increased to 25%.
    Additional trait Freecure II, gives a 15% chance that a Cure II will give you a free Cure III.

    Protect and Shell to become WHM exclusive abilities:
    Protect: Party wide AoE, prevents 5% of damage for 20s. When hit by physical damage, that player gains a confession stack. 30s cooldown.
    Shell: Single target, prevents 10% of damage for 20s. When player is hit by magic damage, you gain a lily. 30s cooldown.

    Aqua: New water DPS spell, a front loaded spell maybe 150 potency, with a weak DoT maybe 40 potency over 12s. 2s cast time. Inserted around level 40 or so.
    Fluid Aura: Addition to stun and knockback it also extends the duration of the DoT applied by Aqua.

    Vortex: High level DPS spell, deals 200 potency AoE damage (with no drop-off per target) and consolidates all aero DoTs present on targets into one hit. oGCD on cooldown, maybe 30s. Requires a lily to use and expends all lilies.



    Scholar

    Physick cast time reduced to 1.5s.

    New Faerie: Lily, mastery of the Fey via the Pixies allows you to summon a complete Lily.

    Embrace: Same as the others.
    Midday Light: Party members in range deal 5% more damage for 20s. Cannot be executed when Midnight Shroud is active.
    Midnight Shroud: Party members in range gain 5% defence for 20s. Cannot be executed when Midday Light is active.
    Word of the Fey: 200 potency Heal for self and party members in range. If under Midday Light effect: Adds a 50 potency DoT for 24s. If under Midnight Shroud effect: Inflicts a 50 potency DoT on all enemies in range for 24s.
    (Not entirely sold on these skills myself, just trying to put something together that sounds functional and different from the other two)

    While the other faeries can generally be left on autopilot, Lily would ideally need to be used on Obey in order to control the damage debuff and HoT windows. So it’s an option for greater hands-on control at the cost of a higher skill ceiling.

    Executing a faerie action other than Embrace will increase your new Fey Blessing gauge, once full you can execute Fey Invocation.

    Fey Invocation: summons Demi-Titania.
    Demi-Titania will be present for up to 30s and grant a 60 potency AoE HoT to any players in range while she’s active.
    You can manually execute her following actions, she will be unsummoned after three actions.
    Blessings of the Fey: Heals party for 500 potency and erects a 100 potency shield.
    Curses of the Fey: Deals 250 potency damage (no drop off) to all enemies in range and lowers their defence by 5% for 10s.



    Astrologian

    Nocturnal Aspected Helios and Benefic shields to have their potencies increased by 20% with Celestial Opposition or 40% with Time Dilation.

    Benefic cast time reduced to 1.5s.

    New Spire effect: Reduces MP costs for target by 10%. (still thematically consistent with being paired with Ewer, but can be useful even if target isn't low on MP)

    Celestial Opposition: Now inflicts Stop instead of Stun. Mechanically identical but with a different animation, and if enemy is immune to Stun it can instead inflict Heavy unless also immune to Heavy.

    Sects effect cards: Current effects are present in Diurnal Sect, new effects for Nocturnal Sect target enemies instead of party.
    Balance: Enemy deals 10% less damage for 15s.
    Bole: Enemy takes 10% more damage for 15s.
    Spear: Enemy cannot deal critical hits for 15s.
    Arrow: Enemy’s attack speed is reduced by 10% for 15s. *but certain special moves and phase changes are unaffected
    Ewer: Inflicts a 50 potency DoT for 15s.
    Spire: Enemy suffers 10% of the damage they inflict on any party members for 15s.

    Gravity II: Deals damage to all enemies in range (no drop off) damage scales with targets current HP percentage.
    Base potency of 150 plus a bonus of 200 that scales with targets HP%. So at max HP they would suffer 350 potency damage, at 50% HP they’d suffer 250 potency damage, and at 10% HP they’d suffer 170 potency damage.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 02-08-2019 at 01:06 AM.

  5. #35
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    @seraphor

    I would still recommend putting each list of ideas in their respective threads. We have three job wishlist threads, we should be utilizing them to talk about individual job desires. People looking for WHM ideas don't want to see SCH and AST ideas so please separate them out and post them in their respective threads.

    Thank you.
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  6. #36
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    Transient_Shadow's Avatar
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    Flutter Butter
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kilka View Post
    I would really like Overheal as an ability for the whitemage. For the next 10 Seconds your healing spells will overheal or something. HP will stack up until HP is lost.

    and... I would love to see Shell as an ability. Reduce Magic dmg.
    An overheal would legitimately be an interesting form of mitigation for whm specifically. and it kind of fits too since you're drawing your power from the life stream itself. Reminds me of Medic from tf2 where you could push the max health of a party member if you kept healing them
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  7. #37
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    An overheal would legitimately be an interesting form of mitigation for whm specifically. and it kind of fits too since you're drawing your power from the life stream itself. Reminds me of Medic from tf2 where you could push the max health of a party member if you kept healing them
    Isn't overheal exaactly wgat SCH and Nocturnal shields are?
    Or rather, overheal would be the same mechanic but situationally only available when the target is already at full HP.
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  8. #38
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I don’t think I’d want Shields to be a Lifeline for another Expac. I want to see more usage of GCD Heals, which aren’t a thing currently(and are not always used unless required).

    I’d prefer if WHM got an Elemental Gauge than the Lily system. It’d store Earth, Water, and Wind Mana for different abilities that use the resource and makes WHM revolve around such a resource at high level. If anything you’d have WHM encouraged to be using its DPS abilities more than healing, considering it brings absolutely no utility to raid.
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  9. #39
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I want White Mage to get more MP intense skills. A single Target Holy of sorts would be nice. Maybe even make it cost half your Mana with an incredible damage pay off. Anything to give the insane MP Refresh we have purpose.
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  10. #40
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Stone V please.
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