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  1. #161
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    If people were aware that it was that easy to opt-out I do think it would ease the minds of many, and maybe would curb the disdain for parsing.
    I don't really see the point of opting out. It doesn't actually prevent your logs from being uploaded by someone else.
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  2. #162
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    it's not ... your data ... though?

    idc either way if people decide to opt out or w/e, but its silly to assume your damage numbers are considered private data.
    I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.

    Combat data isn't fully private to the individual since other party members have access to it, but it's not fully public either since it's restricted to the party. For example, a conversation can be considered private even if multiple people take part in it and in many places permission from each participant is required to record and publish it for the whole world to see.

    The players who collect and publish combat data have not obtained permission to do so from SE and have specifically been forbidden from using the software needed for this. If the data was public then surely it would be accessible without the use of forbidden software, like Lodestone data is.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 02-02-2019 at 02:21 AM. Reason: Sentence structure
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  3. #163
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.
    yeah that's basically my point. SE makes specific points about 3rd party programs but the data itself is public if i just select to see party members numbers in the log filters, thats all.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I have 8 end game characters and am doing them one at a time at the moment opting out of a site I really want no part of.
    i'm not surprised by anything, anymore.
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  4. #164
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.

    Combat data isn't fully private to the individual since other party members have access to it, but it's not fully public either since it's restricted to the party. For example, a conversation can be considered private even if multiple people take part in it and in many places permission from each participant is required to record and publish it for the whole world to see.

    The players who collect and publish combat data have not obtained permission to do so from SE and have specifically been forbidden from using the software needed for this. If the data was public then surely it would be accessible without the use of forbidden software, like Lodestone data is.
    In the absolute worst case there have been OCR-based programs used in other games, you just keep the battle log fully visible in a corner and the OCR program just captures everything in that corner of your screen, zero interaction with the game. Ultimately you don't need to ask for permission to copy chat log text, you aren't signing a NDA like you would in a private conversion.
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  5. #165
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    This has all originated from bait? Holy moly...
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  6. #166
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Still has a point, only registered uses should be visible.
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  7. #167
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    LOL you're using an illegal 3rd party device and it's fine. Not surprised you'd think that opting in wouldn't be the way to go and not have it be the other way around. I have 8 end game characters and am doing them one at a time at the moment opting out of a site I really want no part of.



    Thank you have done two characters and will to the others soon enough.
    calm down. no one cares about your expert roulette parses I promise.
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  8. #168
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    This has all originated from bait? Holy moly...
    This is OP at the moment.

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  9. #169
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    Thyara Tayur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Well the new EU Dataprotection laws can make Logging of the Data quite problematic. Actually I see a possibility to make a quick bug by just sueing the page.
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  10. #170
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    J'oker Jhin
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    Siren
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    Im ignorant here...what's the problem, i just checked it out for the fist time and it just looks like a place where players review their own flaws. Don't many websites pertaining to mmorpgs have that?

    I know league of legends is not a mmorpg but i mean, even i like to look at how pros play so i can do better...can someone tell me whats wrong here?
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