SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I couldn't find it on the lodestone. I don't raid but the idea that people can actually upload something there without your permission or that you have to register on the site in order to opt out is a big turnoff. That shouldn't be allowed.

it's not ... your data ... though?

idc either way if people decide to opt out or w/e, but its silly to assume your damage numbers are considered private data.

[LaylaTsarra]

it's not ... your data ... though?

idc either way if people decide to opt out or w/e, but its silly to assume your damage numbers are considered private data.

LOL you're using an illegal 3rd party device and it's fine. Not surprised you'd think that opting in wouldn't be the way to go and not have it be the other way around. I have 8 end game characters and am doing them one at a time at the moment opting out of a site I really want no part of.

I just checked and it appears fflogs has changed their own policy when it comes to opting out: https://www.fflogs.com/help/hiding-characters/

Ideally we shouldn't have to opt out in the first place but not having to register on fflogs to do so is a huge improvement. I'm shocked that this isn't being talked about. Is it old news and have I been living under a rock?!

Thank you have done two characters and will to the others soon enough.

[Tsumdere]

LOL you're using an illegal 3rd party device and it's fine. Not surprised you'd think that opting in wouldn't be the way to go and not have it be the other way around. I have 8 end game characters and am doing them one at a time at the moment opting out of a site I really want no part of.



Thank you have done two characters and will to the others soon enough.

calm down. no one cares about your expert roulette parses I promise.

[Reinha]

it's not ... your data ... though?

idc either way if people decide to opt out or w/e, but its silly to assume your damage numbers are considered private data.

I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.

Combat data isn't fully private to the individual since other party members have access to it, but it's not fully public either since it's restricted to the party. For example, a conversation can be considered private even if multiple people take part in it and in many places permission from each participant is required to record and publish it for the whole world to see.

The players who collect and publish combat data have not obtained permission to do so from SE and have specifically been forbidden from using the software needed for this. If the data was public then surely it would be accessible without the use of forbidden software, like Lodestone data is.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.

yeah that's basically my point. SE makes specific points about 3rd party programs but the data itself is public if i just select to see party members numbers in the log filters, thats all.

I have 8 end game characters and am doing them one at a time at the moment opting out of a site I really want no part of.

i'm not surprised by anything, anymore.

[alimdia]

I don't think any player owns data that originates in the game. I'm pretty sure we had to sign away our rights to it.

Combat data isn't fully private to the individual since other party members have access to it, but it's not fully public either since it's restricted to the party. For example, a conversation can be considered private even if multiple people take part in it and in many places permission from each participant is required to record and publish it for the whole world to see.

The players who collect and publish combat data have not obtained permission to do so from SE and have specifically been forbidden from using the software needed for this. If the data was public then surely it would be accessible without the use of forbidden software, like Lodestone data is.

In the absolute worst case there have been OCR-based programs used in other games, you just keep the battle log fully visible in a corner and the OCR program just captures everything in that corner of your screen, zero interaction with the game. Ultimately you don't need to ask for permission to copy chat log text, you aren't signing a NDA like you would in a private conversion.

[AxlStream]

This has all originated from bait? Holy moly...

[Alucard135]

This has all originated from bait? Holy moly...

This is OP at the moment.

[Tharia]

Well the new EU Dataprotection laws can make Logging of the Data quite problematic. Actually I see a possibility to make a quick bug by just sueing the page.

[AleXwern]

Well the new EU Dataprotection laws can make Logging of the Data quite problematic. Actually I see a possibility to make a quick bug by just sueing the page.

Do you actually know anything about said dataprotection laws. Point to me the paragraph that tells that this is illegal.