SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[LiteBrite]

Just a bunch of crap PC players are allowed to use parsers, and us ps4 console peasants are judged on our numbers, not allowed notta to improve numbers. And people want to judge other people's numbers based of that, such BS. Oh by the way nice job on balancing the healers, not! Maybe "you know who" will get it right for a third time, in two years. NOT holding me breathe. I just came to the conclusion "you know who" hates healers.

[van_arn]

it's not going away

[DumdogsWorld]

Using 3rd party tools is rather unique violation to the ToS. Most of the time, bad people who don't want to break the rules find ways to be bad without breaking them. There are so many ways to be toxic in this game without violating ToS. When it comes to 3rd party tools, however, everything seems to be the opposite - you can be the nicest person in the world, but if you talk about parsing in-game, then....yeah.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's against the ToS whether people want to admit it or not. Sure, it's not enforced when you keep your mouth shut, but that just makes it a classic example of the "it's not illegal if you don't get caught" fallacy. I'm not condemning the use of parsers, however, whatever the ToS may say. But, as with any situation where you're on the wrong side of the rules, you gotta lack any toxicity and be super considerate of other people in order to get away with it.

[NebulaStarsong]

I believe in having fun with what you do, as long as you helping while having fun, it should be ok. I do not like the fact that someone uses my name without my permission, but it's good to see where things are at times. That aside, you can tell when someone is having fun, they're putting in more damage, more work and is doing it according to them and not to someone else telling them how to do what they do. This is what I like to see more of, not "Do this or you suck and fail because I'm better then you" kind of bull. I don't think the site will go down but if people use it for ill reasons then it does give it a bad name. If you do poor, get kicked. If a site says you do poor, get kicked. How will anyone get better or get good, if they're not even allowed to get better or get good at a dungeon, if they're not welcomed into one? Just poor excuses to use a site. The site itself wouldn't be the problem, if this was the case, just the people that use it would be the problem, that are doing this to you.

[Tinibou]

On one hand I agree with the OP about the toxicity FF Logs bring.
But if some people want to use it, they should be able to.

Tips : update the description of your character profile on the Lodestone and put "fflogs-hidden" then no one will be able to check on FF Logs your logs and you won't be bullied or what by the toxic players

[Lunavi]

The one part I do agree on is that it is VERY terrible that you have to sign up to their website to opt out of it. I would be 100% fine with the site if it was opt in. I am very very concerned of the reason why they chose to do it like that, which is why I really dislike it as that just makes it obvious what the true reason for its existence is, which isn't a positive one.

[Tinibou]

The one part I do agree on is that it is VERY terrible that you have to sign up to their website to opt out of it. I would be 100% fine with the site if it was opt in. I am very very concerned of the reason why they chose to do it like that, which is why I really dislike it as that just makes it obvious what the true reason for its existence is, which isn't a positive one.

No need to subscribe. Just update the description of your character profile on the Lodestone and put "fflogs-hidden" then no one will be able to check on FF Logs your logs, since I did that, I can't be found.

[Lunavi]

No need to subscribe. Just update the description of your character profile on the Lodestone and put "fflogs-hidden" then no one will be able to check on FF Logs your logs, since I did that, I can't be found.

This is wonderful! Now I no longer have any gripes with fflogs.

[HWalsh]

No need to subscribe. Just update the description of your character profile on the Lodestone and put "fflogs-hidden" then no one will be able to check on FF Logs your logs, since I did that, I can't be found.

I need to figure out how to edit my lodestone character profile.

[Reinha]

The one part I do agree on is that it is VERY terrible that you have to sign up to their website to opt out of it. I would be 100% fine with the site if it was opt in. I am very very concerned of the reason why they chose to do it like that, which is why I really dislike it as that just makes it obvious what the true reason for its existence is, which isn't a positive one.

This has been changed which is great! Not sure when but it was before or around the time this thread was made. It's still opt out but you can do it without ever going on the website.

Tips : update the description of your character profile on the Lodestone and put "fflogs-hidden" then no one will be able to check your logs on FF Logs