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[Burningskull]

I'm curious. If SE said that they would not make anymore limited jobs, but were going to leave BLU as a limited job and still expand it because of all the work they have already put into it, would that be acceptable?

I'm also curious that if SE added some pre level 50 fights to the masked carnival to make getting dungeon and trial spells more solo friendly on the solo friendly job, as well as adding solo versions of the Primals to the post 50 masked carnival, would that be acceptable?

[Starflake]

I don't like Blue Mage at all. A boring leveling experience, and no class complexity at all. Most of the skills are just pure fluff and aren't useful at all but for some niche skills such as DiamondBack and Flying Sardin in the Carnival. The Primal skills are an absolute joke. Eruption = 220 potency skill. Feather Rain = 180 potency skill and puts on a dot equating 40 potency, so also a total potency of 220. What's the point? What goes through ones head. What's even worse is that both skills share a cooldown so you can't even use them afer each other and can only use one. They are literally the same except for the animation. Just use Eruption, it will always be better in case the dots don't tick.

You have to rely on level 70 people to get some Primal skills. Blue Mage is a pathetically weak class against this kind of content. How are you going to solo content with Blue Mage? How am I going to solo some final bosses? You can't even solo the final boss of Ampdapor Keep. The DPS output is ridiculous. Your healing skill is pathetic. One tankbuster does 2-3k damage. Since White Wind only heals for the amount of HP you have, it's such a useless skill to have solo. How am I going to solo Garuda Extreme with my 5-800 hitpoints worth of Glower.
There is just a lot of fluff. Yes, you can use Bad Breath on stuff, but do you really have to? No! You can use quite a few skills, but most of them are the same, some very good ones have no use at all. How can people defend this? The Masked Carnivale was alright. But it has no replay value. Unless you want some seals or poetics. Who cares?

Absolute waste of resources. A new Ultimate would have been much better. SE could have let BLU be an actual job in the next expansion. There is no cohesive paradigm for BLU. It's boring, the optimal thing is using 3 - 6 skills. Absolutely shocking.

[Kaonis]

Thanks for demonstrating how to cherry pick.

[Awful]

what you're doing there is called "Cherry picking", its like basing an entire novel's quality on a single line in the book.

No I'm just giving you factual evidence of the class if I wanted to take a one liner and say BLU is a solo class because of the slide I would have, I used it in conjunction with how the class is as we got it and were promised, I am not cherry picking. You do do dude at the end of the day we were promised a "unique" experience that was in the form of a solo class if I wanted to cherry pick I could go on about how the class isn't intuitive, it's lacking, once you level and hit 50 it loses all meaning etc, now that is cherry picking.

I backed my claims up and stand by them BLU isn't in a great state for what SE promised us, a solo class, not suited for parties, whose endgame is shallow and underwhelming as well as all the spells that are lacking as well.

[Rhus]

What is amusing is people complain about lack of open world so devs make a job that can only be levelled in the open world with the intent being via fates and mob kills. So the player base find a bypas and don't bother with that lol

I can also see why though. Having done the chimera fate tonight with all blu when someone eventually agreed to tank it, it took Soooooo long to kill we basically tickled it to death

[Fyce]

Gosh, this argument again...



You can EXP the job entirely by playing solo. You can learn all the skills you need for the Masked Carnivale by playing solo. You can participate in the Masked Carnivale, which is entirely solo.
This is what "designed for solo play" means. Or, at least, this is what SE meant when speaking about it.

It's obvious that BLU wasn't only designed to be played exclusively solo. We had the proof during the reveal and with promotion material. And the biggest proof is obviously the job itself that we get to play since the 15th. Yet, people still seem to believe that the job was annonced completly and stricly as a solo job without any possible ambiguity, and that it was implied that it could solo anything... but that -somehow- Square Enix forgot(?) to make it this way.

Do people using that argument really think that Square Enix will suddenly change the whole design of the job just because of a cherry picked line in a powerpoint that people got wrong?
If you keep using that ridiculous argument, the best thing that could happen is SE saying "Oh, you thought it was a solo job only? Sorry, we should've made that powerpoint more clear. Now go make parties and farm some more."
If you want stuff to change, that's not how to do it. Use constructive argumentation in regards to what the job actually is ingame, instead of being stubborn about what you think a powerpoint slide meant...

[Zephera]

The whole BLU grouping thing isn't really helped by the fact BLU sucks in group content, especially against primals. It's damage is miserably below average and its "tank stance" doesn't mean much with it's lack of defense to go with it. White wind is a pretty good heal, but that's about all BLU has going for it. It's a job that's a downright liability to bring along in group content and it can't even solo said content to progress and get it's skills.

Simply said, it's a job that has failed in both aspects of play.

[Deceptus]

Gosh, this argument again...



You can EXP the job entirely by playing solo. You can learn all the skills you need for the Masked Carnivale by playing solo. You can participate in the Masked Carnivale, which is entirely solo.
This is what "designed for solo play" means. Or, at least, this is what SE meant when speaking about it.

It's obvious that BLU wasn't only designed to be played exclusively solo. We had the proof during the reveal and with promotion material. And the biggest proof is obviously the job itself that we get to play since the 15th. Yet, people still seem to believe that the job was annonced completly and stricly as a solo job without any possible ambiguity, and that it was implied that it could solo anything... but that -somehow- Square Enix forgot(?) to make it this way.

Do people using that argument really think that Square Enix will suddenly change the whole design of the job just because of a cherry picked line in a powerpoint that people got wrong?
If you keep using that ridiculous argument, the best thing that could happen is SE saying "Oh, you thought it was a solo job only? Sorry, we should've made that powerpoint more clear. Now go make parties and farm some more."
If you want stuff to change, that's not how to do it. Use constructive argumentation in regards to what the job actually is ingame, instead of being stubborn about what you think a powerpoint slide meant...

Holy Strawman Batman. The picture you showed was overworld leveling. Something no one really has an issue with.

The main issue is the other 28 of their 49 skills (57%) that require grouping to obtain. Often with dismal obtain percentages.

[Fyce]

Holy Strawman Batman. The picture you showed was overworld leveling. Something no one really has an issue with.

The main issue is the other 28 of their 49 skills (57%) that require grouping to obtain. Often with dismal obtain percentages.

You missed the point. SE talked about playing the job by forming parties. This is enough to dismiss the job as "exclusively solo". It doesn't matter what it was for. Besides, another slide mention the fact that you can learn skills in party. So them speaking about party play wasn't only to speak about EXP.

In regards to your number of skill that requires grouping, I don't know where you got it, but it's wrong.

Edit: And just to be clear, SE never said that you could learn every skill solo in any slide ever. Period. If you assumed that, you were wrong.

[Deceptus]

You missed the point. SE talked about playing the job by forming parties. This is enough to dismiss the job as "exclusively solo". It doesn't matter what it was for. Besides, another slide mention the fact that you can learn skills in party. So them speaking about party play wasn't only to speak about EXP.

Problem is, a group of BLU's generally can't complete dungeons/primals on their own. Their basic damage is sub par (without having dungeon /primal skills to enhance their dps) and they can't tank the content because even with mighty guard, they get hit like a truck.

In regards to your number of skill that requires grouping, I don't know where you got it, but it's wrong.

Dungeons: 20
Mind Blast
Ram's Voice
Dragon's Voice
Glower
The Look
Sharpened Knife
Song of Torment
Flying Frenzy
Lvl 5 Petrify
Plains Cracker
Flame Thrower
Diamondback
High Voltage
Tail Screw
Ink Jet
Fire Angon
Snort
4- Tonze Weight
Aqua Breath
Missle

Primals: 6
Feather Rain
Eruption
Mountain Buster
Veil of the Whorl
Shock Strike
Glass Dance


My bad, 26. I miscounted. 3 of those can be obtained in the MC, but can be hard to get. 1 Can be obtained via the right leve. One Via the overworld

New total 21 out of 49 require dungeons / primals