So people are defending the msq dc exploit

[Aeva]

I don't know, I kinda agree with some of the "white knights" to an extent. The change was made to improve the experience for new players, and people getting around the change they implemented is technically an exploit. There should be a solution for both newbies and veterans, like the other people mentioned about having a check when players join that says either "hey there's a newbie, cutscenes are unskippable" or "hey, everyone here beat this already, cutscenes are skippable."

Something actually does need to be done about this though, because here's what happened in a DF MSQ roulette I ran earlier: A newbie player was votekicked by vets because they wouldn't d/c to skip the cutscenes. That's really, really shitty to punish people if they don't "voluntarily" ruin their own experience. Needless to say I reported the whole instance.

[Deceptus]

There should be a solution for both newbies and veterans, like the other people mentioned about having a check when players join that says either "hey there's a newbie, cutscenes are unskippable" or "hey, everyone here beat this already, cutscenes are skippable."

This is 100% the best solution but SE either can't do it (lol technical limitations /s) or won't do it (they've made a decision and are sticking to it).

No newbie bonus? You can skip the cutscenes. They don't serve a purpose at that point.

yes it is a exploit, the dungeon was programmed so anyone in those instances could no skip the cut-scene. If you are bypassing that option by means of a exploit it can and will get your account banned, or suspended. It is against the ToS.

No, the dungeons were changed to do that. They weren't programmed that way originally.

[Mixt]

Yep, classic example of people being evil douchenozzles right there.

Hope they get banned. What they did there is NOT OKAY.

[Bigmoose85]

What's gonna happen is everyone who did this will get ban hammered lol

[LalaRu]

...Whats worse is when players start harassing other players for not using the skip exploit.

The day it wil happen to me, I'll report that and we will see who can login next week.

[ChaseNetwork]

The day it wil happen to me, I'll report that and we will see who can login next week.

My guess is probably both of you will be able to log in just fine. If kicking teammates for not meeting your group's gear requirements in the Duty Finder is acceptable under the excuse by mods of (differing playstyles), then kicking you cause you're not skipping the cutscenes (you aren't meeting with the group's playstyle), is similarly going to be ignored by mods.

[Kuroka]

Yeah i know that though, thats why some ppl bot since ages...

[ChaseNetwork]

This conversation reminds me of the discussions of "Cheesing" encounters in Destiny.
Cheaters ultimately just want to cheat, and if they have enough pride, will say anything they can think of to try and justify it.
No point arguing with them. If they do something you identify as a cheat, report them and move on.

[KaivaC]

This conversation reminds me of the discussions of "Cheesing" encounters in Destiny.
Cheaters ultimately just want to cheat, and if they have enough pride, will say anything they can think of to try and justify it.
No point arguing with them. If they do something you identify as a cheat, report them and move on.

Define cheating in this context. Aside from not having to deal with cutscenes, define what advantages that skipping cutscenes will give you. Because last I checked, you still have to fight through bosses and mobs. Can't cheese those. The more ppl locked in cutscenes, the harder it would be to ...well, you know, "cheat".

So let's just call it exactly what it is: it is an exploit, not a cheat. They intertwine from time to time, but they are not the same thing in this case.

[Kuroka]

lol i see an easy hotfix for this, each player has to end the CS so if you DC it just starts over, that would be fun xD