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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinzhu View Post
    The pDPS discrepancy between WHM and AST is definitely over exaggerated though. It just comes down to the point I made before and that there are no truly great groups running with WHMs compared to their AST counterpart.
    I really don't think this is the only case. Sure there's less good WHMs playing but even the best WHM parses are significantly below what an AST can do.
    I really do feel like they overbuffed AST accidentally through the faster Malefic III casts. Unless you're a Bard or MCH, the game attempts to control caster damage throughput by forcing you to stop casting and move. I would think that every healers potential DPS is decided with this in mind, but now that AST is not playing by the rules and is able to cast non stop it's throwing things off.

    Just looking at FFlogs, the DPS discrepancy between WHM and AST is about 1000 on average. That's just not normal no matter how you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    I really don't think this is the only case. Sure there's less good WHMs playing but even the best WHM parses are significantly below what an AST can do.
    I really do feel like they overbuffed AST accidentally through the faster Malefic III casts. Unless you're a Bard or MCH, the game attempts to control caster damage throughput by forcing you to stop casting and move. I would think that every healers potential DPS is decided with this in mind, but now that AST is not playing by the rules and is able to cast non stop it's throwing things off.

    Just looking at FFlogs, the DPS discrepancy between WHM and AST is about 1000 on average. That's just not normal no matter how you look at it.
    Yeah they definitely overtuned AST. I made a breakdown about this before but AST gained about 4400-6600 potency from the change. How that bypassed SE is beyond me.

    Anyways my point before was back in Sigma WHM was in a lot better spot for the first half of it and there were a lot of exceptional players and groups playing it. WHM actually had the highest parse unpadded out of all the healers in O5 and Clown Kefka and beat AST in every fight. One or two SCHs beat them in every other fight but they were really close.

    That's comparing all the parses all the way to the end of Sigmascape right before Alphascape which means the AST changes are taken into consideration. What i'm saying is this discrepancy doesn't just increase to the extent people like to say it does or looks like. It's really just a player skill/group situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinzhu View Post
    I made a breakdown about this before but AST gained about 4400-6600 potency from the change. How that bypassed SE is beyond me.
    My guess is that they don't bother looking at it cause from their point of view (like they said several times), healers damages aren't taken into account, even if the clipping issue with AST was asked majorly by dpsing healer.
    Not saying they shouldn't look at it, of course they should, but in their mind, since it's not required, it looks okay, until there's an uproar because healers damages are unbalanced and that's still raid contribution.
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