Don't like Blue Mage? Here is how to convince SE to change it...

[Clover_Blake]

"Here's not the thing you wanted. What's that, you're not happy? Okay here's something you don't want. All better now?"

There being more jobs to come wont remedy the issue of blu not being a full job for a lot of us.

But people did want "different things" and people did want a Blue Mage class that would actually feel like a Blue Mage, as far as I recall. That some people want to raid as well doesn't mean that the current Blue Mage idea is something no one wanted, I think. This is just a case of not being able to please everyone.

[ADarklore]

So instead of, "Don't like Blue Mage? Here is how to convince SE to change it..." How about, "Like Blue Mage, let's convince SE to keep it as is..." which gets my vote.

[Zafran]

Level 50 cap is one of the reasons people are mad about the limited job concept imo (duty finder too but i could live with that if i was a max level at the very least)
We want to play new content and not run around the black shroud again.
I could live with blu being a solo job (and joining premade groups knowing im not an optimal job) if i could do all the solo content in this game.
Hunts, Treasure maps, Deep Dungeon, Eureka (abd its equivelant in 5.0) are all suited for solo play, but i cant do most of that as BLU. Yes there are hunts and treasure maps in 2.0 areas but thats not enough

[Aerlana]

With lvl50 max, you cant simply do the MSQ as BLU... just the MSQ, with nothing to really fight in openworld (oh no, a pack of 4 ennemies with 1 health point each ! ) and where solo duties are so easy that a broken job wouldnt change a lot this (and... if the job is broken in solocontent, would be a solution for those thinking some soloduties are too hard :-° )

for this i cant even consider BLU as "solo-job" because he is extremly limited in solo things... ... just a side content you can use for RP

[CaptainLagbeard]

I am not really feeling the whole "limited class" is going to be a good thing.

And for Blue Mage in general, I feel it's more of a timesink than actual content. Going out to kill all the mobs to learn all the skills, and trying to solo some trials.


But at the same time, as FF XIV is now, if Blue Mage was made into just a regular class, I don't think it would work for it to learn skills from enemies and it'd just be another caster DPS not doing anything special.

[Adiart]

With lvl50 max, you cant simply do the MSQ as BLU...

That is probably the worst part for me. I really love the story in this game, and it would have been really fun to go through it as BLU, which is one of my favorite FF classes.

I don't know why everyone else is only thinking about raiding on BLU...

[Alleo]

But people did want "different things" and people did want a Blue Mage class that would actually feel like a Blue Mage, as far as I recall. That some people want to raid as well doesn't mean that the current Blue Mage idea is something no one wanted, I think. This is just a case of not being able to please everyone.

But wanting different things does not mean that those different things are always going to be good or free from criticism. And honestly I dont remember a single person on this forum that have wanted a solo Blue mage job. Yoshida might have stated that it would be hard to implement but people just mostly either hoped that they would still find a way without completely taking away the identity of the job or maybe knew that it might never come.

Its just solo content (or a mini game) that probably will be done quite fast and then what? Do fates with it all the time? Clear the blue mage duty (which is a good idea) again and again forever? Other jobs dont need new content spezifically made for them to keep them relevant. Blue mage will need updates and more content for it to keep it interesting otherwise it wont have long to live. And is all that worth is? Couldnt they have balanced it for duty by locking certain abilites for it and still give it the unique duty on top of that? This way we would have had a job that can be used everywhere but also something new to test out with the collection of more spells, and the duty.

[Reynhart]

Other jobs dont need new content spezifically made for them to keep them relevant.

On the other hand, new jobs don't make existing content new. Running Omega 1 to 12 as a BLU would be the same as running them as any other caster, and as predictable in any other role.

Couldnt they have balanced it for duty by locking certain abilites for it and still give it the unique duty on top of that?

Funny, because before BLU was announced, people were at peace with the idea that creating a new job mid-expansion was too much of a burden. Now that they did it, it seems okay to feel disappointed because they couldn't do more.

[Clover_Blake]

Yoshida might have stated that it would be hard to implement but people just mostly either hoped that they would still find a way without completely taking away the identity of the job or maybe knew that it might never come.

Is that actually possible though?
There's the fact that Blue Mage needs to learn skills from monsters, versus every other class that are given the skills automatically. This means that, as Yoshida said, many Blue Mages would be harassed for not having gotten this or that skill already. This is a real problem that can't simply be ignored.
There's also the fact that the skills a Blue Mage could learn would have to be very limited and very nerfed, and then I'm sure that a part of the community would have complained that this doesn't feel like a Blue Mage at all.

The current limitations play in favour of more freedom in that regard. Now Blue Mage can collect tons of skills and do things that no other class can even dream of doing. And apparently this maintains the essence of the class, unlike what it could have become had it been a regular one. Shouldn't it be given at least a chance? Maybe raiders, apart from enjoying raiding in general, will also enjoy the Blue Mage game as well.

[jon041065]

But people did want "different things" and people did want a Blue Mage class that would actually feel like a Blue Mage, as far as I recall. That some people want to raid as well doesn't mean that the current Blue Mage idea is something no one wanted, I think. This is just a case of not being able to please everyone.

I was referring to the idea that people that wanted to main blu should just accept one of the current or upcoming jobs instead to make up for not getting to main blu.

SOME wanted this version of FFV blu. SOME like myself wanted FFXIV blu like how they have done with every job already. I think they should do both versions and just have a separate job crystal for each. Most on my side have said they are fine with waiting even if it something for the 6.0 expac.