Don't like Blue Mage? Here is how to convince SE to change it...

[BlitzAceRush]

But what if in the future se decides to only create these limited jobs and no real jobs will those who like this system now because it's in its honeymoon stage like it so much if they decide to do that.

Not really much point in arguing such a speculative "what if?" scenario.
"What if they stop adding jobs altogether?"
"What if they end 14 after Shadowbringers?"
"What if they start removing jobs?!"
From everything we do know and have been told they plan to continuing adding new jobs as evidenced by them adding more normal jobs in 5.0 after BLU's arrival in 4.5 and also said that limited jobs open up jobs that otherwise wouldn't work/fit in 14, implying they intend to continuing adding jobs while using the limited job system to add ones they feel otherwise wouldn't work.
We can argue weather or not limited jobs are a good idea, but no sense in adding things like "What if they only add limited jobs?" when nothing they've said even remotely eludes to that.

[Knahli]

It is not, it's going to be like atma, you see a huge surge for a month or two and then everyone is done. And why would you play it when you "don't necessarily want to go do other solo content" when the job was literally according to them made for solo content. You are contradicting yourself.

Practical uses of Blue Mage aside, I don't see why its strange for people to be interested in leveling the class up and unlocking all the skills for the sake of completion rather than as a means to do solo content. I mean, you have people completing fishing logs and collecting every single mount in the game along with a hell of a lot of other arguably "meaningless" activities just for the sake of doing it. And as for non-raiders like myself... what real justification do we have for rouletting and maxing out gear when we know we don't actually need it - at least beyond a point?

As for myself, when it comes to expansions, I can take or leave new jobs; its simply not something I really care about. I didn't touch Red Mage nor Samurai and I had no real plans to touch Blue Mage either... but considering it's something new and different, I am actually going to give it a try. I'll play it alongside my friend and - even though I don't think it's for me - I'm sure we'll have plenty of fun trying it out anyways, and I'll look forward to seeing others out in the world too. So as someone who wouldn't even describe themselves as much of a "solo content" player, I am certainly looking forward to this despite it's limitations, and I'll hold out hope that it will add incentive for them to expand upon the overworld to give the class extra use and viability among many other reasons as well.

Personally, I find the idea of making a normal job the lazier alternative to something like this, even if more popular.

[Arkdra]

But what if in the future se decides to only create these limited jobs and no real jobs will those who like this system now because it's in its honeymoon stage like it so much if they decide to do that.

This would be the optimal thing to do and frankly I wish they had done it after heavensward. And I am saying this as someone that spends the majority of their time playing sam and rdm. The current batch of jobs does not get the attention they deserve as is and more jobs will only make that worse.

[diruulth]

Just not going to do it. I refuse to level a "limited job". It will be an eyesore to see the level 1 on my search info, but I don't care, it's not a job after all HUH.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I feel like this apparent backlash over the current info on implementation of BLU is due to people preconceiving their own expectations of the job based on a version of it from a previous FF game and desire to make it their new endgame main.

But then I feel like there has been too much of an increase in excessively noisy, whiny children that think they know more about games than the people and companies making them in the past decade or so and a lot of the responses from people complaining about this and also other games recently do nothing but support this feeling.

Its 1 thing out of a number of other things that are due to arrive in the future. Why don't you sit down, chill out, and see what it is like by actually trying it out when available? Right now in your head you don't like it. You might change your mind after playing it. Just like many people thought "Awesome a new Star Fox game" when Starfox Zero came out on the WiiU then ended up with disappointment that a potentially great game was utterly ruined with the "innovative" control scheme they chose to go with.

[Powercow]

Its 1 thing out of a number of other things that are due to arrive in the future. Why don't you sit down, chill out, and see what it is like by actually trying it out when available? Right now in your head you don't like it. You might change your mind after playing it.

It's not that people have an issue with how BLU plays. Learning skills from monsters? Cool! Wide variety of spells? Sweet! Badass pimp cane! Awesome!

What people have a problem with, for the most part, is not being allowed to do endgame fights. If BLU was available for endgame content in Shadowbringers -- not even in 4.5, just in Shadowbringers -- then a good 99% of the complaints would vanish. Given the tone and what they said during the LL, they made it seem like BLU will *never* be allowed to do relevant content. Not just in 4.5-5.0, but ever.

[jon041065]

I'm totally against the concept of limited jobs unless there were the limited and full versions or limited job was something like onion knight/freelancer. So I decided after the live letter that I will not be resubbing until the concept is scrapped or changed like I said.



I'm hoping that SE tries to reach the middle ground as I think there would be more overall players that are happy than there are right now.

[Clover_Blake]

Blue Mage is supposed to add a completely different gameplay. For its limitations with endgame content, It'll be able to do things that no other class can. The fact that SE has prevented it from doing endgame content means that they can go as overboard as they want, and try new things without worrying about limiting what Blue Mage can or can't do.

So yes, I believe that Blue Mage will be its own experience and its own challenge, something interesting to try out. You can still do endgame with many other classes-- 2 more coming in 5.0! If you have enjoyed endgame so far without Blue, nothing is preventing you from continuing to enjoy it.

[jon041065]

Blue Mage is supposed to add a completely different gameplay. For its limitations with endgame content, It'll be able to do things that no other class can. The fact that SE has prevented it from doing endgame content means that they can go as overboard as they want, and try new things without worrying about limiting what Blue Mage can or can't do.

So yes, I believe that Blue Mage will be its own experience and its own challenge, something interesting to try out. You can still do endgame with many other classes-- 2 more coming in 5.0! If you have enjoyed endgame so far without Blue, nothing is preventing you from continuing to enjoy it.

"Here's not the thing you wanted. What's that, you're not happy? Okay here's something you don't want. All better now?"

There being more jobs to come wont remedy the issue of blu not being a full job for a lot of us.

[Maero]

@ Powercow

Nah people would find a way of bitching how it is too OP, or very unbalanced.
This is sort of an experiment they are trying. And at least it is something different in FFXIV
I suppose if they get too much backlash they may eventually allow it for all content, but then how much tuning would be needed as it would obviously be too OP.
Do we know it will be a caster? If so i am sure it will it mess it up for casters again. Smn community will get their buffs again, BM will fall behind and RM may as well get deleted
I am just partially joking here folks.