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  1. #191
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    A solo job in an MMO is for a lack of a better word dumb imo. If I wanted to play a solo experience I wouldn't be playing FFXIV. There are much better single player experiences to be had elsewhere.
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  2. #192
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    Xeorran Kalia'shearra
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    A solo job in an MMO is for a lack of a better word dumb imo. If I wanted to play a solo experience I wouldn't be playing FFXIV. There are much better single player experiences to be had elsewhere.
    Which is fine, but some people do and there's nothing wrong with providing content for them too.
    As stated FFXIV is a theme-park MMO and you don't need to like every ride at a theme-park to enjoy your time there.
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  3. #193
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    Amson Beoulve
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    Which is fine, but some people do and there's nothing wrong with providing content for them too.
    As stated FFXIV is a theme-park MMO and you don't need to like every ride at a theme-park to enjoy your time there.
    Can still make content for those people without any ride having such restrictions.
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    Last edited by jon041065; 11-26-2018 at 07:22 PM.

  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon041065 View Post
    There is no need for any rides to have such restrictions though. Can still make content for those people.
    Except in this case the content or "ride" has been made, you're asking them to take a mostly finished ride and either totally redesign it or bolt on a second fully formed ride to it, both are not easy feats.
    Regardless of people asking for them to "just change BLU" or "Make a second BLU that works in all content." That's not something easily done, they can't just rework the current BLU into anything else or build a whole functioning job out of it's pieces on the spot
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    If it were so simple Dark Knight wouldn't have had to wait until 5.0 for a rework the Dev's went on record saying it needed as early as 4.1-.2. Like BLU, Dark knight exists now, the rework will likely take a lot of what Dark is and they can reuse animations, spells and skills, they still can't just churn out its rework on demand.

    If they decide to make BLU able to do more, it'll either come way down the line as a large rework, 6.0'ish or part of a slow evolution as they feel out this limited job system and see how far they can push it.

    At the end of the day, we don't even know what their endgame (endgame as in their final goal not in the sense of endgame content) is for limited jobs, yes there limited, with what they can do and their level but they've said the level will be raised we don't know what else they'll do with it.
    Solo focused doesn't mean solo only, I could very well see a day where limited jobs are only kept one major patch behind just as to not break current content, that could be something they'd consider.
    But asking them to either redesigned the whole thing, or make a whole second extra job, on top of the current blue and the two other jobs coming with 5.0 is unrealistic.
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  5. #195
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    Kip Skyskip
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    Except in this case the content or "ride" has been made, you're asking them to take a mostly finished ride and either totally redesign it or bolt on a second fully formed ride to it, both are not easy feats.
    Regardless of people asking for them to "just change BLU" or "Make a second BLU that works in all content." That's not something easily done, they can't just rework the current BLU into anything else or build a whole functioning job out of it's pieces on the spot
    .
    If it were so simple Dark Knight wouldn't have had to wait until 5.0 for a rework the Dev's went on record saying it needed as early as 4.1-.2. Like BLU, Dark knight exists now, the rework will likely take a lot of what Dark is and they can reuse animations, spells and skills, they still can't just churn out its rework on demand.

    If they decide to make BLU able to do more, it'll either come way down the line as a large rework, 6.0'ish or part of a slow evolution as they feel out this limited job system and see how far they can push it.

    At the end of the day, we don't even know what their endgame (endgame as in their final goal not in the sense of endgame content) is for limited jobs, yes there limited, with what they can do and their level but they've said the level will be raised we don't know what else they'll do with it.
    Solo focused doesn't mean solo only, I could very well see a day where limited jobs are only kept one major patch behind just as to not break current content, that could be something they'd consider.
    But asking them to either redesigned the whole thing, or make a whole second extra job, on top of the current blue and the two other jobs coming with 5.0 is unrealistic.
    I think most of us have accepted that real change for BLU will take time. The first things I said after it was announced as limited and what that entails is 'so we'll have to wait for 6.0 for a rework'.

    And that's fine with me because that's how long it takes other jobs to be reworked, but we gotta get out here and have our voices heard so it happens that early. The sooner they hear the displeasure the better.
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  6. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    Except in this case the content or "ride" has been made, you're asking them to take a mostly finished ride and either totally redesign it or bolt on a second fully formed ride to it, both are not easy feats.
    It's not easy but they've done it before, here's looking at you Bard.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    But asking them to either redesigned the whole thing, or make a whole second extra job, on top of the current blue and the two other jobs coming with 5.0 is unrealistic.
    for 5.0 is unrealistic, but if they are not working towards it in 6.0, they really really messed up.
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  7. #197
    Player Kusanagi7's Avatar
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    Primal Ishtar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    A solo job in an MMO is for a lack of a better word dumb imo. If I wanted to play a solo experience I wouldn't be playing FFXIV. There are much better single player experiences to be had elsewhere.
    FFXIV already had solo jobs before this deciple's of hand and land so try again.
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  8. #198
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    Kronus Magnus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 70
    I don't get the If I wanted to solo thing I would play offline games?
    You do a ton of soloing in most modern mmos these days. And FFXIV is the more solo friendly job of the Square mmos.
    • Solo 90% of the MSQ.
    • Solo sidequest
    • Solo craft
    • Solo in gold saucer
    • Solo job quest
    • Solo job rotation

    Even in intense group combat scenarios you are basically soloing minus the occasional buff or heal you give out to a party member. The majority of group coordination involves stacking or splitting and running to safe zones.
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  9. #199
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    I don't get the If I wanted to solo thing I would play offline games?
    You do a ton of soloing in most modern mmos these days. And FFXIV is the more solo friendly job of the Square mmos.
    • Solo 90% of the MSQ.
    • Solo sidequest
    • Solo craft
    • Solo in gold saucer
    • Solo job quest
    • Solo job rotation

    Even in intense group combat scenarios you are basically soloing minus the occasional buff or heal you give out to a party member. The majority of group coordination involves stacking or splitting and running to safe zones.
    I agree with all of this. I've always considered this game to be a single player RPG that has mmo features since most content is indeed done solo.
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  10. #200
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    Cordon Bleu
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    I don't get the If I wanted to solo thing I would play offline games?
    You do a ton of soloing in most modern mmos these days. And FFXIV is the more solo friendly job of the Square mmos.
    • Solo 90% of the MSQ.
    • Solo sidequest
    • Solo craft
    • Solo in gold saucer
    • Solo job quest
    • Solo job rotation

    Even in intense group combat scenarios you are basically soloing minus the occasional buff or heal you give out to a party member. The majority of group coordination involves stacking or splitting and running to safe zones.
    Yes many mmorpgs are like single player games because they evolved from single player games obviously. Just because there are single player qualities in an MMORPG doesn't mean a majority of people want more single player content. People play mmorpgs for the for the Massive Multiplayer Online aspect I reckon, as there are much better single player western and jrpgs out there. If we are going to compare aspects of FFXIV to other MMOs id like to ask, "How many other MMOs reduce a class or a job into a minigame? How many other MMORPG player populations want future classes/jobs to be "Limited" like blue mage?" I am willing to place money down and say not many.
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