All that BLU hate is just absurd

[Moogly]

We hate it because it is creating a new job system that does not integrate in any meaningful way with current content. It will also drain away resources away from the original system. There is plenty of ways op skills could have been integrated without making the class extremely overpowered and keep it FF lore friendly. It has been done with all the iconic classes in some shape and form.

As I said, it wasn't aimed to be played with current content (raid)... it's capped to lvl 50.
And here again, you talk about resources taken away... but to what better things then ? What do you want ?
You talk about plenty of ways to do it better, but guess what ? I am pretty sure there's someone out there to tell you : "it's a terrible idea you're having there"
Understand they don't want to make it a raiding (current content) job - it is their wish, the devs wish to do this. I mean it's their game...
You want regular jobs ? You'll get them at Shadowbringers.

Wanting change does not mean start something completely different and take resources away from existing systems. It means do more interesting things with the current systems. This game is already suffering from an extreme sense of playing several different games at once. We do not need even more added to the increasing thin pile.

OK.
What is it then ?
Because I'm warning you : by doing more interesting things with the current systems, you're exposing yourself to the criticism of recycling content...
Or may be you meant something else ?

@Burningskull and Elerus
You guys don't have fc, or friends (or phones)
I can be your friend :3 (but i don't have a phone to give u)

[Shurrikhan]

As I said, it wasn't aimed to be played with current content (raid)... it's capped to lvl 50.
And here again, you talk about resources taken away... but to what better things then ? What do you want ?

I cannot speak for others, but you'll see many of these concerns echoed in others' posts as well.

All that said, you still haven't played BLU yet...
People are making suggestions... on what ? 40 minutes of slides and a video ?
That's why it feels so absurd to me - talking about making something better... when no one has even played it yet...

YoshiP and the devs do respond to players when they can, but here no one is even giving a chance at their idea...

Reason 1: We already have reason to believe that the direction is badly flawed.
Reason 2: Once implemented, designs will not see substantial revision until a year to an expansion later, if ever. If we want to be able to give any meaningful feedback, it has to be now.

[Moogly]

I cannot speak for others, but you'll see many of these concerns echoed in others' posts as well.

Wow !




so many bad ideas in all that though.........
see... it's though huh ?

Reason 1: We already have reason to believe that the direction is badly flawed.
Reason 2: Once implemented, designs will not see substantial revision until a year to an expansion later, if ever. If we want to be able to give any meaningful feedback, it has to be now.

1.It's flawed based on your view. Did you even consider some people were actually hyped at it ? Like people who like playing the solo content part of ffxiv ?
2.It's capped at 50. And they said it will evolve. It feels like playing a live beta, yea, but if so, wouldn't you want the test period to be long enough so as to really take our time to fine tune the job correctly ? Play it and maybe you'll think : oh that part actually works out pretty well, but that part definitely needs to be changed.

You seemed to have somehow missed everything after the first sentence of the post you've quoted. Here, this may reduce the strenuous effort it would otherwise take you to go back a single page and read a post before misconstruing it. If intentional, then at least it may provide a better informed strawman to misdirect.

Yea like all her ideas were super original...
Let's check it out idea by idea :
Dungeons that arn't just pull all the trash and by the numbers repeat same boss fights that you could set your watch too.
No trash mobs ? lol
Or you want mobs you need to CC ? lol, you're going to pack it all anyway
You want labyrinth like dungeons ? Very bad idea, wow tried some and simplified them in the end - it's only for a niche who like exploring - most just want to rush the thing and be done with it
You want random mechs boss fights ? go play wow - some like ffxiv choregrafied combat style and don't want it to change.

8man raids that are not just gloried trials.
Who wants harder content ? everybody raises hands
Who has cleared A12S ? 5 people raise hands
YoshiP has clearly understood who was playing what.
So current content is too ez for you : good.
Guess what : some people actually find the game hard at times.

Think 8man dungeons. More variation in monster abilities and moves. Moving away from a purely expected incoming damage system. These are just the ones off the top of my head. This is working within the same system to make the game more fun and challenging. Not imposing bad caps and horrific grinds.
Yea like all the new mechs, markers, duty action, etc... we get every xpack.

And you call all that original ideas ?

Now I will show what is misdirecting :

Sarcasm aside. I don't see how Blu is "Something completely new."

She's like ignoring the whole rest of the paragraph but w/ever.......

[Fredco191]

Eh. I probably wouldn’t have liked playing it all that much anyway.

Still. I feel bad for people who wanted to main BLU.

[TroySoFab]

Hate and criticism are two different things. These few white knight threads are absurd.

[Moogly]

Hate and criticism are two different things. These few white knight threads are absurd.

Dreams and reality are two different things. These many whine threads are even more absurd.

[Curcio]

Dreams and reality are two different things. These many whine threads are even more absurd.

Complaining about something you don't like is not a bad thing. It's how situations change. Look at the complaints in Rainbow six Siege lately. Ubisoft listened and are changing the game for the better.

The devs don't need you to defend them. They aren't precious flowers who can't handle their fans complaining about design choices. They know we love them. They need to know we don't like BLU, and it should change. BLU can still be the "new content" you wish for even if it's changed to a normal job (like we want).

[TroySoFab]

Dreams and reality are two different things. These many whine threads are even more absurd.

Cute response. But again dismissive of valid concerns and criticisms people have of BLU. Though judging by your other responses in this thread it seems you're just here to troll, so have fun

[diruulth]

The hate isn't absurd. They should've known they'd get a lot of hate for it, it's a 'limited' class that a lot of people wanted to main in the raid scene.

[Soraki-Muppe]

To be honest I get why people are suspicious of this limited job thing, I also understand that it must suck for everyone that wanted this to be a proper job. The devs does not have the best track record when it comes to implementing new features, and if it is not popular enough they will either abandon it or lock a bunch of rewards behind it.
They have done this before and are likely to do so again.

I do of course hope that BLU is so fun that it changes the minds of all who now say nay. For 4.5 need any piece of good content it can get in order to keep most people subbing until the expansion.