Please stop making Eureka

[Vahlnir]

Diadem 1.0, Diadem 2.0, Anemos and Pagos. They had time to get it straight by now with Pyros

They probably had the plan in place already, but...plans change. Or at least they should. There was nothing stopping them from maybe making some alterations here and there.

[Aomine1992]

Just sucks, I really wanted to do my SMN relic butt with the dawn of Pagos I just couldn’t stomach it....

Anemos wasn’t amazing or anything but it was tolerable so I don’t know why they didn’t keep with this design and maybe build off it with the suggestions from the player base instead of that crap fest between Anemos and Pyros...

Well hopefully SE truly learns from these content mistakes or I doubt this game survives till 6.0.

[Nariel]

Hey, maybe they have. Who know what they looked like before Anemos release. + they nerfed Pagos two time before it loose its relevance and may have applied those nerf to Pyros before its crash.

[BillyKaplan]

Nha I don't tell everybody should enjoy it, I say people will keep do it for the reward because they love this reward more than they hate the content, they will complain about how much unfun it is, and keeping on "just don't do it it will change" is false, they will just recoat it with another paintcolor so yeah people still do it even if its boring, sure it have to change but be real, it won't even if only 10 people do it like diadem. Maybe because they love this game even if he have flaws who know ?!

People like you are why Diadem is on the verge of being scrapped with many of the worthwhile awards from it being in HoH now, but Eureka only keeps getting more and more shinies locked behind it. Because what didn't work for Diadem apparently works for Eureka.
Hell at least Diadem is good for gatherers.

[Nariel]

Why I'm responsible for this ?

I'm not part of SE FFXIV game design branch, I didn't even set a foot in Diadem but hey Eureka happen anyway.

Just because I'm not deluded enough to think my subsciption have any weight ?

I'm not advocating for this to keep existing for f**k sake, I'm telling you people will do it anyway because even if its not fun AT ALL for me other may they find it tolerable enough to get the carrot or even have fun in it because every one have different taste and tolerance. I'm not even playing it as intended, I'm a train lover, I barely play it and get the hell out the second I get my relic cause that all I want and afking most of the time is tolerable enough for me to get it.

But hey keep on dreaming you can change the world by doing nothing and just ignore it. I think voicing my opinion on how terrible it is and why it is this bad have more value than "don't love it ? don't do it duh". I don't like peach, I'll keep not eating them until trees stop growing them.

Don't worry, it will die next expansion and the next relic process will probably change because Eureka as a whole failed to entertain. Pyros didn't start last month you know, ANemos was release that Pyros was already worked on, they can't just throw magical dust and voilà its totaly different, next step will be released even if Pyros population stay very low for weeks cause thats how it works.

[Altera]

I would rather play XIV1.0 again rather than Eureka. I really hope the developers is not becoming as out of touch and tonedeaf like Blizzard and the fiasco announcement of Diablo Mobile :/

[Aomine1992]

Hey, maybe they have. Who know what they looked like before Anemos release. + they nerfed Pagos two time before it loose its relevance and may have applied those nerf to Pyros before its crash.

Unfortunately the problem is still pagos they nerfed it after a majority had just given up on it or opted out of doing it...

SE doesn’t learn in my opinion, SB has been an epic failure on so many levels sooo I hope 5.0 will be their redemption....

[Nariel]

Unfortunately the problem is still pagos they nerfed it after a majority had just given up on it or opted out of doing it...

SE doesn’t learn in my opinion, SB has been an epic failure on so many levels sooo I hope 5.0 will be their redemption....

Yeah, Pagos hurts the whole Eureka really bad, they took a huge risk and didn't pay at all. Its going to stay a really hard relic (and other stuff too while at it, a smart FC will probably came here to farm and sell those reward for millions of gil) to get in the future if they don't come out with some stupidly overpowering deus ex machinae to help people breeezing through or just skip the step with tomestone and forget about the rest.

its a shame, if they actually focused on a original gameplay and not grind/fate they could get one of the best instance ever. A more, "secret world" type of gameplay, I'm sure those guys can come up with better time sink than those stale idea from the last century. The whole elemental thing isn't even exploited that much its a shame.

[kupokage]

I went hardcore and got all my levels and Eureka upgrades within two weeks of Anemos' launch, and then again with Pagos.

This time I went in Pyros, i did the initial quests of talk to this guy n that and then stepped out of the gate and heard the music playing, i looked around at the various parties chain pulling, I see the flood of "lfg" in shout chat, like PTSD it all came back to me.... i let out a sigh and said "naaaaah", exited and logged off.

[HyoMinPark]

Why I'm responsible for this ?

Because you’re participating in content that you don’t enjoy simply because you want the rewards. I think that sends the wrong message to the developers.

I don’t think the message you should send to video game developers is “I hate this content, but put something shiny enough in it and I’ll do it anyways, regardless of how much I hate it, how much the content sucks, and how miserable I am”, is it?

Just because I'm not deluded enough to think my subsciption have any weight ?

It’s actually not delusional to believe that large backlash can provoke a reaction—how do you think we got Wards 13~18 in Patch 4.2?

I'm not advocating for this to keep existing for f**k sake, I'm telling you people will do it anyway because even if its not fun AT ALL for me other may they find it tolerable enough to get the carrot or even have fun in it because every one have different taste and tolerance.

And others are merely disagreeing with this mindset. Because, when you play a game, you shouldn’t be miserable while doing it.

But hey keep on dreaming you can change the world by doing nothing and just ignore it.

Uhm. Of course, you can’t “change the world by doing nothing” and “just ignoring it”. No one here is advocating to “do nothing” and “just ignore it”, or have you not been reading the thread? But you can change things if you are vocal enough about it, and if enough people have a negative reaction to it. How do you think Pagos got nerfed 2 weeks after release? I don’t think that happened because people “did nothing”. Again, how do you think we got Wards 13~18 in Patch 4.2? It certainly wasn’t through ignoring the dumpster fire that was Shirogane’s release.



Going to have to post this here since I’m out of posts for now:

Blah blah blah blah

No need to be rude or act like a child. That doesn’t make anyone receptive to listening to what you have to say.

First, I'm all for it to be deleted or canceled or whatever, I'm just telling you that ranting about "people don't like it but do it anyway isn't going anywhere they kill the game by promoting the thing they hate" don't help at all

Don’t quote things that I didn’t say. All you’re doing is putting words in my mouth with this statement. Find where I said that people participating in Eureka is killing the game.

I said it’s sending the wrong message to the developers—mainly that the content is successful/well-received when it clearly isn’t. I didn’t say it was killing the game. Though, if they continue to shove content people dislike down the playerbase’s throat, eventually the game will suffer.

So please, stop putting words in my mouth.

they don't need you to define what their boundaries are.

Am I defining anyone’s boundaries? No, I am not. If you’re referring to me using the word “you”, it’s called “the general you”. Look up what it means.

Wasn't here at Shirogane release so no, I don't see what you are talking about nor I care that much about it to be honest.

Perhaps you should do research then before you make statements that people can’t change things they dislike, then.

Shirogane’s release was an absolute mess: people couldn’t get past the lobby server because the game was so flooded, the game crashed for many because it couldn’t handle the load that Kugane was under from everyone trying to cram into the city-state; it was a mess. I’d recommend you go back and read the threads about it, because there was nothing positive to say about the way Shirogane’s release went down. All 3 regions were complaining about it, and JP aren’t usually ones to complain about much. The outrage was so massive that Yoshida personally responded to it that they were going to implement Ward 13 through 18 in each of the 4 housing districts afterwards, as well as implement efforts to try and discourage people from buying up all the new plots and flipping them, which happened with Shirogane’s 4.1 release.

People complained, and they got a result. It does happen. Saying it does mean that you simply haven’t done the research to see that it does. Sadly, it’s infrequent.

I'm all for improvement if people want to discuss them rather than "its bad don't do it or they'll make it worse".

People who start off responses with “blah blah blah blah” simply because they don’t like what someone else said generally don’t come off as looking to have a discussion. Just saying.

But don't tell me what I should do or don't you are nobody to tell me how to enjoy my game so be gone with your attitude.

Again, look up what the “general you” means; me using “you” in a sentence generally does not mean you explictly. However, you are the only one here with an attitude. I’d recommend checking it if you want to actually have a discussion here. And to stop getting so offended at replies to you.