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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I get that you don't want them to nerf SCH.
    I said it twice that was okay with a nerf.
    I know Scholar is strong and OP.
    I don't want asburd nerf, then absurd buff like they did in SB.
    That's why I said that, if they want to nerf it without really thinking what they're doing, I prefer him to stay like this and see what's their plan for other healers, then potentially nerf it after.
    I don't know how I should write it to get understood.

    Like when they buffed Indom... I didn't understood the thing cause Indom was already strong.
    Same for the Succor buffed. While it needeed some help, I was not thinking about a 150% shield either.
    I was as surprised as many to see those buff that wasn't entirely needeed cause the only "prob" was that his shield had insane mana cost with the old AF trait (20% to get -10s).
    With the 45s AF it is okay, but they did all those adjustement in one time.

    And what made SCH dps higher was precisely Miasma II weaving because of its pps higher than Broil + hGCD, not Ruin II.

    As for the skill ceiling, this isn't entirely "my" opinion but something commonly shared among the comminity.
    Sch is easy to play okay, a lot harder to master at his best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    I said it twice that was okay with a nerf.
    I know Scholar is strong and OP.
    I don't want asburd nerf, then absurd buff like they did in SB.
    That's why I said that, if they want to nerf it without really thinking what they're doing, I prefer him to stay like this and see what's their plan for other healers, then potentially nerf it after.
    I don't know how I should write it to get understood.

    Like when they buffed Indom... I didn't understood the thing cause Indom was already strong.
    Same for the Succor buffed. While it needeed some help, I was not thinking about a 150% shield either.
    I was as surprised as many to see those buff that wasn't entirely needeed cause the only "prob" was that his shield had insane mana cost with the old AF trait (20% to get -10s).
    With the 45s AF it is okay, but they did all those adjustement in one time.

    And what made SCH dps higher was precisely Miasma II weaving because of its pps higher than Broil + hGCD, not Ruin II.

    As for the skill ceiling, this isn't entirely "my" opinion but something commonly shared among the comminity.
    Sch is easy to play okay, a lot harder to master at his best.
    So to be clear I said SCH needs some nerfs and you argued against that but now you're only saying you don't want an absurd nerf.

    Please show me where I have suggested absurd nerfs. I'll wait.

    Oh look! I didn't! So your protest is essentially pointless.

    I'm not saying I want SCH 6 feet under. Please stop crying like I'm suggesting it should be made unplayable. I'm saying it is currently too strong and is grossly overrepresented in current Savage content.

    If any of you SCH white knights want to try to argue against that I will happily laugh you out of the thread. As I stated before 77% of parses in Alphascape have a SCH present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post

    If any of you SCH white knights want to try to argue against that I will happily laugh you out of the thread. As I stated before 77% of parses in Alphascape have a SCH present.
    So? Just as much as Paladin and Bard are usually represented in most savage groups, party utility rules all. Astro and Scholar have that, your Whine Mage has none. You should be asking for buffs, not tearing down the jobs that actually are great.

    Second, Scholar already got a nerf last tier.

    Whining about log representation is laughable at-best, if anything, all three healers have never been better balanced in terms of healing throughput. Just one has some absurd job meter mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    So to be clear I said SCH needs some nerfs and you argued against that but now you're only saying you don't want an absurd nerf.

    Please show me where I have suggested absurd nerfs. I'll wait.

    Oh look! I didn't! So your protest is essentially pointless. [/b]
    No... you misunderstood my point.
    When I talked about "absurd" nerf, I never mentionned that it's what you want.
    It's what I'm afraid dev team might do, because, like I said several times, I feel like they don't know how to nerf properly.

    I'm not putting words on your statment you never said.

    So please, no more passive agressive tone, I'm not fightning.
    And if you can't understand me this time, I'll just give up explaining myself.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 11-01-2018 at 05:28 AM.