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  1. #151
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    Kirsten_Rev's Avatar
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    Kirsten Revenant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I can imagine there being a dip in Pagos players come next patch, after all we'll have a ton of new content and the Eureka weapon will be underpowered somewhat at 370 compared to all the new tomestones and raiding gear that'll be available. Perhaps if Pagos gets some more adjustments people may go in more, otherwise they could just wait it out till the last Eureka area drops, who knows.
    I know speaking personally, I wouldn't grind through Pagos to get to Pyros, in its current state.

    I'd highly recommend SE find a way to make Pyros sort of 'parallel content' to Pagos (i.e. monsters start at level 20, and maybe go up to level 40), allowing people to skip Pagos entirely from a leveling standpoint. Otherwise their 'new' content will be operating at a distinct disadvantage from day one.
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  2. #152
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    Zephanoa's Avatar
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    Vaeldus Lunarys
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    I know speaking personally, I wouldn't grind through Pagos to get to Pyros, in its current state.

    I'd highly recommend SE find a way to make Pyros sort of 'parallel content' to Pagos (i.e. monsters start at level 20, and maybe go up to level 40), allowing people to skip Pagos entirely from a leveling standpoint. Otherwise their 'new' content will be operating at a distinct disadvantage from day one.
    One can only hope that they are going to fix it but we will see. I would like to think that they would because I have folks who are still staying to get caught up through Anemos.
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  3. #153
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten_Rev View Post
    I know speaking personally, I wouldn't grind through Pagos to get to Pyros, in its current state.

    I'd highly recommend SE find a way to make Pyros sort of 'parallel content' to Pagos (i.e. monsters start at level 20, and maybe go up to level 40), allowing people to skip Pagos entirely from a leveling standpoint. Otherwise their 'new' content will be operating at a distinct disadvantage from day one.
    Me too. I stopped doing Anemos as soon as I got the T-Rex mount and still need lots of levels there before I can even set foot into Pagos at all. Then I would need to level through that too to even get to Pyros. So no matter how good the next one would be (which I doubt that it will be great) or even the last one, having to level through the other parts stops me from going there. And no reward is worth going through this at that point (for me).

    Also interestingly the one with all 15 Pagos weapons did need over 600 hours to get all those weapons. Thats around 40 hours per weapon. Now this is the time done with an exploid thus casuals will probably need more time. Thus you need 40+ hours for one weapon that is useless tomorrow and you also cant do any other content will you did that...40 hours...how ist that casual?
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  4. #154
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I’m only level 6 in the first Eureka.

    I’ll get to it probably long after 5.0 if the end weapon looks any good for DRK. If not then I’ll skip.

    Dead Hive weapon is still the main glamour for my DRK everything else is a failure. Need to step up the glamour game if you’re I want me to grind mindlessly for months.
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  5. #155
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    Iunia Arcena
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    I’ll get to it probably long after 5.0 if the end weapon looks any good for DRK. If not then I’ll skip.
    I'm kinda scared it will not be possible in 5.0. Unless they figure out some way to make Eureka something people want to do for fun as opposed to this "ugh, do I have to?" thing that holds relic weapons and some mounts and glamours hostage, I predict it will be dead long before the next expansion arrives, and completely forgotten after it releases. If nobody goes there, FATEs will become impossible and there's only so long one can grind mobs solo or in a small group before one starts hearing voices telling them to murder the guy laughing at them from the TV, despite the fact that they haven't owned a TV set for years.
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 09-17-2018 at 10:24 PM.

  6. #156
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    Nana Hya
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    SE has gladly heard you OP, and will make Pyros even more grindy than Pagos or Anemos ever were.
    ty bb
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  7. #157
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    Xion136's Avatar
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    Eclaire De'wynter
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Me too. I stopped doing Anemos as soon as I got the T-Rex mount and still need lots of levels there before I can even set foot into Pagos at all. Then I would need to level through that too to even get to Pyros. So no matter how good the next one would be (which I doubt that it will be great) or even the last one, having to level through the other parts stops me from going there. And no reward is worth going through this at that point (for me).

    Also interestingly the one with all 15 Pagos weapons did need over 600 hours to get all those weapons. Thats around 40 hours per weapon. Now this is the time done with an exploid thus casuals will probably need more time. Thus you need 40+ hours for one weapon that is useless tomorrow and you also cant do any other content will you did that...40 hours...how ist that casual?
    -40 hours a week for 1 weapon

    I already work 40 hours a week doing the same thing every day, I want to home and game and spend my time in a variety of activities and locales. Not one goddamn instance.
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  8. #158
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    TwistedTea's Avatar
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Filthy casual, who doesn't do savage raids,or even current raids, to get that augmented whatever the latest iLvl gear, does the bare minimum of Duty Roulettes weekly to get those sweet tomestone handouts, gonna add my 2 gil here:

    1. I dislike Eureka. I've been in Eureka for a grand total of 2 times. Whenever, I think of a "Skinner Box", Eureka will now be a blindingly shining example of boring Skinner Box in my mind. Guess, I'll never get that /shiver emote

    2. Been to Diadem recently thanks to FC leader. Cool place to explore, however my gripe with Didaem prior to going there and now is that you need to go in via the FC airship or the Ishgard queuing,(which I think is dead).

    At least, Eureka is far more accessible and the scenery seems to be nice. However, since the rewards of Didaem are now being shifted into HOH, I hope Eureka ends up dying like Diadem did.

    Yes, I find endlessly running POTD, HOH more fun than Eureka.
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  9. #159
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    Kandy Kayn
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 80
    I'd rather grind FATES for crystals than stand around in an instance for hours at a time. There is so much beautiful, open, and unsused space in the new Stormblood maps, that SE could've done something with them.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    SE has gladly heard you OP, and will make Pyros even more grindy than Pagos or Anemos ever were.
    ty bb
    Sad, but a very accurate look at what Pyros is becoming.
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