This Needs to Be Said

[Aster_E]

Sad, but a very accurate look at what Pyros is becoming.

Indeed, if what we heard about it is true, and that's why I'm no longer touching Eureka at all on principle, except maybe to take a few screenshots (namely in Anemos) if I ever feel inclined to do so down the line.

[TwistedTea]

Filthy casual, who doesn't do savage raids,or even current raids, to get that augmented whatever the latest iLvl gear, does the bare minimum of Duty Roulettes weekly to get those sweet tomestone handouts, gonna add my 2 gil here:

1. I dislike Eureka. I've been in Eureka for a grand total of 2 times. Whenever, I think of a "Skinner Box", Eureka will now be a blindingly shining example of boring Skinner Box in my mind. Guess, I'll never get that /shiver emote

2. Been to Diadem recently thanks to FC leader. Cool place to explore, however my gripe with Didaem prior to going there and now is that you need to go in via the FC airship or the Ishgard queuing,(which I think is dead).

At least, Eureka is far more accessible and the scenery seems to be nice. However, since the rewards of Didaem are now being shifted into HOH, I hope Eureka ends up dying like Diadem did.

Yes, I find endlessly running POTD, HOH more fun than Eureka.

[rxnin]

I'd rather grind FATES for crystals than stand around in an instance for hours at a time. There is so much beautiful, open, and unsused space in the new Stormblood maps, that SE could've done something with them.

[TaleraRistain]

Okay it's a few pages back, but re the WHM stuff:

- We told SE before SB that tying lilies to Cure and Cure II was crap and they ended up having to add in more spells because we were right
- We told SE before SB that the lily system was going to be useless and it is. The one reason we had to even pay attention to it, Divine Benison, was removed from being tied to it. Those reductions? Nice if they come up but I don't try to use them in any possible tactical manner because it's pointless.

It wasn't doom and gloom and our class is over for everyone. A lot of us had very solid feedback on things that ended up being changed exactly as we said they would have to change them. Although some of it still hasn't changed, like the lily system being worthless.

As for Eureka, my main worry is that this design is putting a heavy limit on the relevance of the content. Right now, you can still go do your ARR relic. You can even get some things easier because you can get them with tomestones or GC seals. You can still do your anima. Hell, I see PFs up constantly still for anima victory lap runs. But when there are no people to group with in Eureka, how are you going to do your relic from Stormblood? I'm seeing it even now with people so top heavy at 35. There are light parties available but often the train is dying and not many are chaining because it's just not moving the metric.

[AbandonHopeTD]

Yoshida has extreme tunnel vision and nothing will ever change, if something doesn't work they just make a 2.0 version... But worse.

[Annah]

i will not do it. I tried it once for a few hours and said "Nope."

i love relics but this is insane. What's crazy is someone got ALL the weapons from there.. He stated he spent 15 hours a day for weeks. I can't even comprehend that. I mean I work too....and do other things in life

[Oriens]

The problem is they plan content so far in advance (at least 1 year development time until we get to play it) any feedback that requires drastic changes is probably going to be ignored. I'm not making excuses for the dev team-- they need to figure out how to implement quality changes instead of minor fixes or improvements that do not really resolve core issues.

[Arkdra]

The problem is they plan content so far in advance (at least 1 year development time until we get to play it) any feedback that requires drastic changes is probably going to be ignored. I'm not making excuses for the dev team-- they need to figure out how to implement quality changes instead of minor fixes or improvements that do not really resolve core issues.

Well the thing about this is everyone hated diadem too and eureka is basically worse diadem. So they got their feedback on that and I have no idea how they concluded that some slight gameplay changes to that bland formula would be enough.

Although their main driving factor was likely wanting to do something different with the relic this time since just about everyone complained nonstop about it in ARR and HW. Oh to go back to those halcyon days though.

[Maeka]

I think the problem is, is you got all the FFXI fans with Rose Colored Goggles.

They keep saying that we (the playerbase) want stuff like Diadem, Eureka, etc where you just park it and grind mobs for hours to pop something.

To me, Eureka and Diadem seemed like a rehash of Abyssea... and I never really got to partake of Abyssea when i twas current content, but upon going back in at I119 I can tell you that it seems like it was boring as crap. Maybe a notch better than other FFXI endgame, but here's the thing..... FFXIV is not FFXI, nor was it ever meant to be.

But, I suppose, the FFXI fans won't pipe down until we give them a little slice of Eorzea for them. I just wish they hadn't gated the nice fancy glowy weapons behind a mob that comes out once every several hours that needs a gigantic group to take down.

[ximxim]

I am the late bloomer of Eureka and I just hit 35 four days ago in Pagos. Right now it's been exactly 4 days I've been waiting for Louhi to pop to collect the Louhi Ice and I have spent hours in Pagos. It's just mind numbing seriously and not fun at all -.-