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  1. #11
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Let's be real. If it happens in a cutscene, the Warrior of Light will just snarl and look angry while SOMEONE ELSE beats up the NPC.

    The WoL NEVER steps in, in a cutscene!
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Idk, I find that face option the OP uses far more annoying than Ramza...
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As for the Wandering Dramaturge, he's basically the equivalent of the Wandering Minstrel...for the guy who is responsible for much of Ivalice. Since the entire raid series has been a love letter for Ivalice fans, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to see people get so enraged by what is a minor inconvenience at best.
    A minor inconvenience where an NPC mocks you, outright calling you a source of mirth, then sends you on a prolonged quest to do something wholly unrelated to the Raid story is a bit annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Idk, I find that face option the OP uses far more annoying than Ramza...
    You can send me the money for a Fantasia anytime then.
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Idk, I find that face option the OP uses far more annoying than Ramza...
    Says the knock off Draco Malfoy
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    In before someone wants to punch Alphinaud.

    ......

    .....I want to punch Alphinaud.
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    I actually don't mind Alphinaud. At least, not now. In ARR, he was a little grating.

    I suppose I could see how someone might find him a tad much, though, given that he's basically the main character of XIV while the WoL is just kind of his friend who is really good at solving impediments to peace treaties with violence.
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Yotsuyu's whole family. Everybody in Othard may call her a monster but her family were the real ones. I wanted to punch them all so badly during each and every single time they were shown in the MSQ and especially at the end of the Tsukuyomi fight. Although, I wanted to punch my WoL way more at the time because of what she DIDN'T do for someone praised so much as a hero you'd EXPECT them to do!!! God, I hate those moments when the hero/main protagonist does that in contrast to whom they are; it pisses me off to no end!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Yotsuyu's whole family. Everybody in Othard may call her a monster but her family were the real ones. I wanted to punch them all so badly during each and every single time they were shown in the MSQ and especially at the end of the Tsukuyomi fight.
    I'm at the other end of the spectrum with Yotsuyu's family. Yes, they were monsters, but they were so over-the-top, mustache-twirlingly villainous that it was hard to take them seriously (especially her "dad's" final scene with her just shattered any shred of suspension of disbelief I had left- won't say more than that because spoilers.) SE's writing for them was so heavy handed and they were so obviously desperate for us to hate them that I actually just kind of shut down toward them emotionally. Asahi was slightly better, but the only thing I wanted to do every time her parents were on screen was roll my eyes.

    Edit: And slightly more off topic- I would love for there to be more options for our PCs in both verbal responses and actions. But, in the particular case that you mentioned, I disagree with your sentiment that the WoL was acting out of character. I get that you have a different feel for your character and his/her motivations and it would be awesome to be able to express that, but for me personally, that cutscene was spot-on. I guess my point being that outside of actually having options for responses that players can select from (which producing cutscenes for would probably be prohibitively expensive) there is no way that SE can write the WoL in such a way that would please everyone simultaneously.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 09-07-2018 at 11:37 AM.

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    Ameela Trussa
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    I wanna punch Thancred for hitting that poor Fortemps kid, then I want to punch my character for being 100% ok with it.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I'm at the other end of the spectrum with Yotsuyu's family. Yes, they were monsters, but they were so over-the-top, mustache-twirlingly villainous that it was hard to take them seriously (especially her "dad's" final scene with her just shattered any shred of suspension of disbelief I had left- won't say more than that because spoilers.) SE's writing for them was so heavy handed and they were so obviously desperate for us to hate them that I actually just kind of shut down toward them emotionally. Asahi was slightly better, but the only thing I wanted to do every time her parents were on screen was roll my eyes.
    I agree, they just seemed so over-the-top harsh and mindlessly cruel that it didn't seem convincing.

    I feel like as much as Asahi was awful and a punch would have been well-deserved, that's exactly what he was trying to make us do the whole time (so he could then accuse us of attacking an ambassador), and we never gave him the satisfaction of succeeding at it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I wanna punch Thancred for hitting that poor Fortemps kid, then I want to punch my character for being 100% ok with it.
    I can't remember the exact details of the conversation, but I think Emmanellain was a bit hysterical at that point? Whether Thancred should have done it or not (or just told him off without actually hitting him - which may not have had the same impact, as it were), it was part of Emm's "turning point" where he started to take more responsibility for his actions.

    I'm also not sure if we were okay with it, so much as it caught us by surprise as well, and we didn't want to intervene. Or there just wasn't much point to intervening after Thancred had already hit him. He deserved the talking-to. He'd been prettymuch an irresponsible idiot all through the story up to that point.

    I think I need to watch this bit again. The fragmented gameplay and cutscene storytelling makes it harder to go back over the story though.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 09-07-2018 at 01:37 PM.

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