White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Istaru]

Its not about that one tiny earring alone. Its just another point, where SE clearly aimed for new players, even those who stay only 2 months. But long time players, veterans, even legacy players getting even more disappointed the longer the game exists.

Yeah, its like those "the game was better back then" statements. Sure, many things became better. New classes, new race, new raids and mechanics. But some things are getting worse or nothing changed at all.

- Long time Veteran Rewards? Gone.
- Fun and challenging PvP? Simplified and dead.
- Deep Dungeon? Just a PotD-clone with nothing new.
- Relic Weapons? Dont get me started about this...
- Expert Roulette? Just big faceroll dungeons... Great "Expert" content (not).
- Things not possible due Server performance? Only possible if you pay for (retainers)
...

Certainly, making a big discussion about a itsy bitsy tiny earring may be overreacting. But its another (even small) example about the path FFXIV want to go. And I m afraid of it. There is so much potential in this game, but SE still working on to many wrong parts of the game.

- What about increasing slots for glamour?
- What about new character customization options?
- What about more content for advanced players (not only grind stuff)?

I better hope, 4.4 will be promising. Pagos and HH were disappointing (not because the features itself, but releasing it way to late).

I agree with you.

[Caitlyn]

Cool, can't wait to get my Replica Legacy Chocobo, Replica Tattoo and Replica Dalamud Horn next year then

Can I have Replica PvP and Replica Amdapor Keep and Replica Coil 7? Oh... and Replica Maschinist please : D

[ErryK]

I need that no fun allowed picture. That's the vocal minority here.

The whole White Ravens drama in a nutshell.

[TaiyoShikasu]

I can’t say I honestly understand what the big deal was in the first place, as I’m not a legacy player, and some of what people were posting/arguing was an embarrassment in of itself, BUT I can say that if I was an upset legacy player I would at least be grateful that Yoshi took the time to apologize. That shows grace and humility.
Yes in hindsight the words “replica” in front of the earrings would’ve gone a long way. But at least Yoshi acknowledged it. Serves to show what we as a community can strive to show as well.

People complained about the replica High Allagan and Dreadwyrm gear, so there still would've been seven legacy players complaining and the rest being people who started in 3.0 white knighting.

[Clover_Blake]

Pretty embarrassing that people actually complained about these earrings so much that yoshi replied.

They simply demanded exclusivity and special treatment based on something that happened six months ago.

Quoted for echoing my own feelings. The experience and memories are what should have mattered, but people tend to need things that can give them bragging rights in order to feel special. At the very least, I hope they can admit that much.

Yoshida-san, I'm very sorry that you had to go through the trouble, though I appreciate you took the time to reply to everyone.
Thank you for always working so hard m(_ _)m

[Kallera]

It's a little worrying. It sets a dangerous precedence...and I'm a little baffled by the implication that it was more than just a vocal minority of people who were against the issue. Of those complaining, many did not even play 1.0 themselves and boast a long post history of expressing discontent with many aspects of the game. Quite a few 1.0 players spoke up to say that they did not mind the decision at all...though they were drowned out by the vocal minority. This was the case across all regions. I took the liberty of checking out the other threads regarding the issue with the help of a translation.

I don't doubt that this will backfire. The developers are already very reluctant to try anything new or do things differently and so there's now a real risk that people will point to this as an example as to how FFXIV needs to keep to its word at every turn even at the cost of stagnation.

I'm glad he responded. It is no stifle of creativity to not take away from the legacy rewards, and for its worth, the devs had learned an important lesson. Perhaps they can take this to their copypasta sets, perhaps not, but leaving things without a response would have forstered a division that the devs(and the event itself) never intended to do. I'm sure this is why in addition to the earrings, his statement also included other considerations.

And as far as vocal minority, Theodric....I look foward to the next debate about Garlean representation.

[Lambdafish]

Quoted for echoing my own feelings. The experience and memories are what should have mattered, but people tend to need things that can give them bragging rights in order to feel special. At the very least, I hope they can admit that much.

Yoshida-san, I'm very sorry that you had to go through the trouble, though I appreciate you took the time to reply to everyone.
Thank you for always working so hard m(_ _)m

Here's my take: The earrings have no stats and are barely glamour items due to how small they are. The amount of players who obtained them in the event and are like "that's it?" Are quite high, and I bet that a lot of people who are complaining about exclusivity in this thread have shoved them on the armoire never to be touched again.

So what's the point of them at all? Well they are a trophy item, nothing more, they are entirely a symbol of beating the fight they were designed for, much like a title or achievement. Its not about taking items away, it's about giving away what is entirely a trophy item to people who it has no meaning to, thus taking away any meaning from an item that has nothing else going for it. If I saw someone with an ultimate weapon, I'd know that they beat ultimate, that's a cool thing to see, if I see someone with the feast crown, they are a feast champion, now if I see someone with the WR earrings, they just beat some seasonal event.

You make bragging rights sound like a negative, but feeling of accomplishment in a social game should come with some sort of expression, videogame theory is built very much around that idea. Its human nature and always has been for thousands of years. Or should the world stop rewarding people with medals and trophies because they are just "bragging rights"

[Mahrze]

snip.

And yet I see people with ultimate weapons, feast crowns and I could care less. Whatever one person pursues I say good for them but I don't go about saying:" Omg that is so cool!" when people realize that different people have different interests and not everyone has to follow or support your own just because its how you see it is when we can have taking points.

Otherwise, I have as many counter points to the inanity behind item > memory as you have points to defend whatever it is you cling to.

[Stormfur]

Well...there you have it, a comment direct from the Producer and Director himself.

Thank you Mr. Yoshida! I'm sorry you had to wade through all 100 pages. To be sure, some of it was honest and heartfelt...and other pages were just full of "what they said was.../but what they meant was..."

Now if we could just get some love over on the PVP side of things, that would be amazing.

[Kallera]

And not a moment too soon at 1000 posts. congrats Nique if you are still watching the thread!