White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Dzian]

That's what's called a very vocal minority. Number of pages is meaningless because several people replied more than once, and even if we're very generous and attributed the number of posts in this thread to players complaining about this, compared to the 600k active players, it's not even 0,1% of the population. Even taking all threads about this here and on Reddit doesn't even reach near it (and we're not considering the people who are indifferent about it or are protesting against 1.0 players attitude on principle)

Yes, 1.0 players are being humiliated...

By their behavior in this thread.

You know why the term vocal minority isnt used anymore right?

Because it's a myth and it has been proven time and time that the once dubbed vocal minority accurately represents the majority in many cases.
Businesses spend billions researching this stuff.

You might say the game has 600k active players and only 1k of them complain about issues within the game on the forums. that doesn't mean that 599k players are happy with things at all. If you consider the game has had over 10 million players according to the last thing i saw on facebook some time ago but only 600k (using your number) of those 10 million are active then why did the other 9.4 million players stop playing? I mean if the game was so good and amazing surely they'd still be playing it right???

This is where things are starting to change in the business world and a shift in focus is slowly happening. Instead of doing customer satisfaction surveys and stuff of your current customer base companies are starting to go the other way and put more focus on former customers than there current ones.

If SE invited all 10 million of those players to participate in a survey about final fantasy 14 i'd bet you'd find a lot of people stopped playing because of various issues often raised by what you dub the vocal minority.

Even 1.0 learned this lesson. In its early days every issue players raised was shrugged off a vocal minority. "don't like it go play something else..." and then square was left wondering where the hell all the players went.. Which is why one of the first things Yoshi did was announce those policies. ya know listen to your players, fun comes first. etc etc.

Essentially though if the game has 10 million players and only 600k are active. then you could say 94% of your players are unhappy with your product.
Even with a huge margin for error for things like people who want to play but cant afford to or other reasons. thats still no minority.

[Emstidor]

I know you said you've never been this embarrassed to be a part of this community before, but that's probably just because you're new. There were lots of complaints when they added the laurel goobbue. And even when they added 1.0 seasonal event gear like swimsuits.

All this reinforces to me is that people will indeed be babies about the dumbest of things.

[Ruf]

You called me biased, but yet you're calling it crying yourself?


In order to flip it, you'd need to uphold it in the first place. And if you're upholding it, there wouldn't be any crying in the first place to cry about crying. Also, "no u" arguments aren't strong at all.


I did, why do you think I only posted after 117 pages? It's a mockery to behave as if the whole value of the experience is present only on the earrings themselves and not on the player's memories. They can argue they're not, but their behavior here says otherwise. I wonder what these people would do if the servers were turned off tomorrow.

As far as you know, some players for that very specific argument might be wishing this… But at the same time, I am quite certain that it would not be the only reason. We agree to disagree.