White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Magic-Mal]

Maybe they just didn't find it relevant enough. Or, they thought that the earrings would be a good way to celebrate FFXIV going on it's 5th rising Anniversary. They're clearly giving them out because they themselves feel it has meaning. In a way, they're celebrating the earrings.

[alimdia]

You're twisting my words ^^'

It's what you wrote, if you meant something else then you should have written something else. So now you're saying that part of the difficulty of the fight was gearing for it, which again is not mechanic difficulty.

[HyoMinPark]

Maybe they just didn't find it relevant enough. Or, they thought that the earrings would be a good way to celebrate FFXIV going on it's 5th rising Anniversary. They're clearly giving them out because they themselves feel it has meaning. In a way, they're celebrating the earrings.

I mean, it still wouldn’t have been hard to code them as Level 1 White-Gear Replicas and still celebrate them as an item.

[Corue]

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

Because it wouldn't be the exact same item as the one from the fight. It would share the appearance and the name but it'd be a different item exclusive to the event.

Legacies get to keep their achievement item and new players get an event glamour.

[Zojha]

Differientiation.

Well, there's a far better way to fix any and all differentiation issues from now until forever.

Put timestamps on achievements. The only caveat is that you need to create achievements for any potential feat, which SE is more or less doing anyway these days.

You can then differentiate people down to the minute at which they attained the achievement. If the point is differentiation, that is better than any potential item renaming can ever be and more efficient to boot, because it's automated. But it's hard to flaunt, you typically don't see people's achievements unless you look. And that, I think, would be the breaking point of that suggestion. I don't think it's about differentiation as such, I think it's more about the ability to throw that differentiation into people's faces.

[Kurando]

All the while not realizing that the symbol means less because of the fact discontinued content means no one can even attempt the feat. It becomes more of a point of who happened to be playing an iteration of the game that was widely lauded as being terrible. In that light, it smacks of elitism.

This is good. It's like if SE suddenly decide to manufacture more Odin statues (with the emote) but then complaining that suddenly more people have the chance to get access to it as well. Mentality is essentially if no one has the chance to get it the original way, then no one should have it at all!

Being proud of an accomplishment is one thing, but denying other people the same opportunity is just wrong.

[alimdia]

Well, there's a far better way to fix any and all differentiation issues from now until forever.

Put timestamps on achievements. The only caveat is that you need to create achievements for any potential feat, which SE is more or less doing anyway these days.

You can then differentiate people down to the minute at which they attained the achievement. If the point is differentiation, that is better than any potential item renaming can ever be and more efficient to boot, because it's automated. But it's hard to flaunt, you typically don't see people's achievements unless you look. And that, I think, would be the breaking point of that suggestion. I don't think it's about differentiation as such, I think it's more about the ability to throw that differentiation into people's faces.

All achievements have timestamps, but they are only visible in the lodestone.

[HyoMinPark]

Well, there's a far better way to fix any and all differentiation issues from now until forever.

Put timestamps on achievements.

I mean, the Lodestone already puts dates on your achievements. They just aren’t documented to the minute.

[Istaru]

I was going to keep out if this, but I’m going to add my 2 cents. This isn’t directed at anyone though I do expect a few select people to just start attacking anyway since I’m not agreeing with them.

As I stated earlier, I do have the earrings, and I use them constantly, they are always in my armory so I can instantly glamour new earrings to them. They are a part of my character. Enough of that, that’s not my point at all.

I have thought about this a lot lately, and I was the person who originally posted the data mined information a few months ago, but the post was quickly deleted. I can sum up my feelings in one word.

Disappointment.

I’m not really mad at newer people who would like to have those earrings. I don’t hate the developers or the game. I truly am simply disappointed in our community and in the developers of this game. To people who say to just leave, or shut up or step aside, I can only respond with “no”. I’m here and disappointed because I actually care about the game and I want to see it grow and I feel things like this potentially undercut that.

When 1.0 launches, anyone in the beta or following the beta knew that this game wasn’t ready for launch. We told them that it wasn’t ready but they launched it anyway, and to our horror it was as bad or worse than we feared. What did we do? Did we exclaim “What a piece of {redacted} game this is, I’m leaving and not coming back” like the majority? No. We stayed. I did not leave then, and I’m not leaving now.

What ever happened to “Do what you say and say what you do”?

They told us certain things could only be obtained in certain ways at certain times. Yes, things do change. When you have told someone that you will do something for them in exchange for them doing something for you, you should honor that. To break that too often, without any discussion or apparent reason undermines that trust.

My disappointment isn’t just over the earrings. It’s all the things that they told us “hurry up and do this before it’s gone”, only to backtrack on them over and over again. You’ve seen the list, at this point they have backed off just about all of it. I expect this behavior from places like EA and Activision. I truly expected better from SE and I absolutely expected better from Yoshida and his team.

Why was this necessary? Why not do something similar instead?

Everyone that talks about the TOS, you are correct, they are free to do as they wish with the game. Just as we are free to speak with our money. Yes, I am still subbed, but I do not spend anywhere near as much money as I used to. I used to have 3 accounts, I only have 1 right now.

I will end with this.

Legacy isn’t all about the reduced sub, or the “tattoo”, it’s not a tattoo per se, or the chocobo, or the goobbue, or the earring or the horn, or any of those items. It’s about putting your faith in a company and a team and having that faith rewarded. That is what legacy is really all about. Every time they undo part of the tangible items, such as the earrings or other things, they are undoing that faith. They are saying “You were wrong to put faith in us, we aren’t any better.”

[alimdia]

Istaru, at the end of the day your experience is what matters, no one can take that away from you, the lack of artificial scarcity shouldn't retroactively diminish your experience.