So, how is Pagos?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's exactly what I said. I wasn't implying how you felt. I don't care if you remain subbed, just like you don't care if I do.

So just tag NMs? That's fun? There is more danger in chaining at least.

Only if your tank or healer fell asleep. And most people didn't simply tag and chill if a NM spawned. The entire zone zerged it down, which is what many people considered fun relative to what Pagos attempted to enforce. Ash Dragoon took 20 minutes to kill day one, but I had fun dealing with all his nonsense. Meanwhile it took over an hour to spawn him, chaining hundreds of Blood Demons. I was bored out of my mind.

Your subsequent posts seemingly ignore the fact you've continuously criticised people who preferred the train or simply loathing chaining trash mobs. What it all boils down to is "are they having fun?" When the overwhelming response is, "No." The content fails.

Nobody is forcing you to play the content, if you don't like it and if it feels like slavery then just stop. 78 pages of whining isn't going to miraculously make this diadem content any better.

Considering SE has been doing hot fixes every week in direct response to all this "whining," I'd beg to differ.

[Zsolen]

Only if your tank or healer fell asleep. And most people didn't simply tag and chill if a NM spawned. The entire zone zerged it down, which is what many people considered fun relative to what Pagos attempted to enforce. Ash Dragoon took 20 minutes to kill day one, but I had fun dealing with all his nonsense. Meanwhile it took over an hour to spawn him, chaining hundreds of Blood Demons. I was bored out of my mind.

Your subsequent posts seemingly ignore the fact you've continuously criticised people who preferred the train or simply loathing chaining trash mobs. What it all boils down to is "are they having fun?" When the overwhelming response is, "No." The content fails.



Considering SE has been doing hot fixes every week in direct response to all this "whining," I'd beg to differ.

I'm going to try to make this as pleasant and direct as possible. I'm not interested in a tit-for-tat. The nerf happened. I accepted that. You don't like chaining. I do. You can do the train. I can do the chain. I have no idea what the ratio between the two groups is. I heard some chain people were very hostile in the instance, but I don't know what has been happening. I'm not sure if there were train people also. If that is the case, it really is best to find ways to be more cooperative. I haven't been in there in the past two days, because of reset and I like to PvP. The last thing we need is people going at each other's throats in the instance or ignoring those in need. Maybe it isn't bad like the stories I've heard. I wouldn't know, but I will tomorrow.

Right now, I'm just looking for data. While I prefer chaining only, I wanted to more closely analyze, particularly for the people that are considering doing a mixture or even if stopping at say a chain of 10 is more viable for those that have issues with long chaining. If I start a new thread, what are the chances I will get feedback from those that do both chain and train? I was considering, but I don't think the thread would last or may get deleted if the mods think it is too closely related to this.

I do agree that this thread made a difference, and I'm sure there was a similar Japanese one that also influenced SE.