So, how is Pagos?

[Myriads]

Things i still need from Pagos before being done with it forever:

The TT card from Louhi.

Have you gotten the Happy Bunny Card? And if so how much pain was involved?

I've seen 2 card drops from the Snow Queen Fate out of 19 runs, So hopefully Louhi shouldn't be too bad.

[Mixt]

Yeah, i got the bunny card.

From the second bunny chest i ever got, so it wasn't that bad.

I got lucky for once.

[Zsolen]

You find NMs boring because of the train. Key difference. While far from perfect, I found them fun. Whereas, in Pagos, I was so bored, I actually questioned whether I ought to remain subbed.

I called it the lesser of two evils. As in, neither system is well thought out. One salvages enough enjoyment I don't mind doing it. The other, well, I'd rather do nothing than chain brainless mobs with FFXIV's combat.

That's exactly what I said. I wasn't implying how you felt. I don't care if you remain subbed, just like you don't care if I do.

So just tag NMs? That's fun? There is more danger in chaining at least.

[SendohJin]

That's exactly what I said. I wasn't implying how you felt. I don't care if you remain subbed, just like you don't care if I do.

So just tag NMs? That's fun? There is more danger in chaining at least.

No one should care if any single player remains subbed. Everyone should care if lots of people unsub for similar reasons.

Tagging NMs is not fun but repeatedly doing the FFXIV rotation on most jobs non-stop is even worse for most people. FFXIV's combat was not built that way.

i can do EX/Savage/HoH/Dungeons/Trains non-stop for 2-3 hours no problem. 30 mins of chaining i get super bored and 1 hour in i have to stop.

[Zsolen]

No one should care if any single player remains subbed. Everyone should care if lots of people unsub for similar reasons.

Tagging NMs is not fun but repeatedly doing the FFXIV rotation on most jobs non-stop is even worse for most people. FFXIV's combat was not built that way.

i can do EX/Savage/HoH/Dungeons/Trains non-stop for 2-3 hours no problem. 30 mins of chaining i get super bored and 1 hour in i have to stop.

People say that "you can still chain," but don't like it when I say the chain is more effective. Why must every post be answered with the same response that chaining is no fun?

I was talking to someone about efficiency but that was sidetracked by someone complaining that I favored chaining over the train in terms of fun.

[NovaBismarck]

I was excited to be able to actually get some decent experience for the time I'm able to put into Pagos. However upon entering the instance tonight it seems like the pent up frustrations between the pro chain people and the pro train people have reached epic portions of bad. Those doing the train refused to wait before pulling a NM, and out right laughed at times at those struggling to get there because they were chaining higher lvl mobs to spawn higher lvl NMs. Lots of comments like 'Just stick with the train or lose out' and 'Not our fault you were up there'. Which leaves those of us looking to strike a balance between chaining for our challenge logs and doing the NMs out in the dust of spending more time running back and forth across the map at top speed while praying we make it in time. I never once ran into this issue in Anemos as most of the time the train waited 3-5 min from pop before pulling the NM. Sure there were some that pulled right away, but they were rare in my experience. Now that SE has boosted the NMs in Pagos it's like all common courtesy and decency was thrown right out the window.

I'd been running Pagos off and on a while now, still a bit slow leveling there because I went back to anemos to help some FC mates. I'm close to 27 now, with the Pagos changes, I noticed the entire party (non-rezzers) left all healers and rezzers, a rdm and smn (myself) to rez people and get to the NM. We missed 2 or 3 NMs because of this. I honestly rage quit last night because I got tired of our group (tank specifically) leaving people behind and leaving us squish rezzers to deal with everything. As a lower level, it honestly does suck. You can't move quickly across the map and if someone is downed or joins the party and gets downed, you get screwed on getting to content. Maybe I had a bad night or more likely a bad group, it happens. I'll suck it up and try again, but it does seem like it's pretty difficult to get to NMs on time. Apparently, courtesy is something only relevant if you are responsible to the group for keeping them alive.

[Ilan]

Small gripe but the 360 weapon required 3 weeks of time to get at minimum (450 x 2 weeks plus an extra 100 the third to get to 1000) and until recently took 7 weeks of Kefka. Small time investment but it took way too long to get those weekly tomes.

They really need to keep it at 4 weekly tomes always.

Well it takes 3 weeks time yes but it doesn't nearly take as much playtime as grinding in eureka because with 15 hours you won't get even close.

[Hyperia]

I tried it and got a level last night. I would like to see the level 40 sleeping dragons removed and then I’d be happy with the zone.

[Ilan]

Why? Just walk past them and nothing will happen.

[Nixxe]

I tried it and got a level last night. I would like to see the level 40 sleeping dragons removed and then I’d be happy with the zone.

Dragons are for light farming. Removing them would be an impediment to that. Just turn on RP walk.