So, how is Pagos?

[Riardon]

From what I have noticed Japanese developers prefer to keep things as a surprise instead of testing to make sure it's right. A lot of the time they have good ideas but they have such a small sample size to actually try it (usually only internal) and they say it's good so they presume most will have the same opinion but that generally isn't always the case (I mean who thought Diadem on the team was good to release?).

The Devs who are not actual players and never play the game enough to understand how a gamer feels/thinks/wants.
They don't have time to play enough with their product if at all to actually test it properly.
They think as coders and not as gamers so many things are good on paper but they suck in reality.
That being said can't see how they sould implement an actual PTS without having massive leaks about the story and dungeons/features way before release.
This is why they will never do a PTS.

[Remus]

[Leloa]

As much as I got used to the grinding and waiting in Anemos, this is even worse. Mostly wait like an hour for one fate to pop but I guess when some people are lvl 35 the full train can take action and move us little guys around.

[Pyro2hell3]

well here's the thing the last phase of your weapon needs 500 of the nm fate crystals so even with all of there anti train stuff thrown in we'll have to make a train anyways to finish
so they have accomplished nothing

[Riardon]

well here's the thing the last phase of your weapon needs 500 of the nm fate crystals so even with all of there anti train stuff thrown in we'll have to make a train anyways to finish
so they have accomplished nothing

Keep people busy for longer = more subs

[Claviusnex]

Keep people busy for longer = more subs

Or people just say the legendary will only be good for a month anyway so the heck with all and drop their sub for another game.

[ToniRomo]

Keep people busy for longer = more subs

September and October are packed with new games. I may just drop my sub for the first time in years.

[Lissandra]

To me it's boring. I finished my challenge log for the week, and my motivation to go back in tanked to 0.

[Nixxe]

I forced myself to do some more Pagos. My goal for this week is 25 (nearly there) and then I'll ignore it until Tuesday. The experience from chaining is better than I originally thought once you get away from the train and leechers, but it's still just way too slow and grinding mobs is monotonous. I'm only getting through it by mentally checking out, basically just putting myself on a total autopilot to the point that I'm not even consciously aware of the game happening in front of me. NMs are really what made Anemos flow and be at least moderately fun and feel somewhat rewarding. I had no issues with Anemos. An insane mob grind in a game that was never set up to reward, let alone encourage, grinding though is just awful. If as a casual this is the only sort of content I have to look forward to in 4.4, I'll probably unsub again and just not come back.

[InkstainedGwyn]

I said this elsewhere, but I feel like this is a good places to consolidate our thoughts.

The train was the only reason my friends and I - many of whom have different playtimes and therefore end up at different levels as not everybody can sink the same amount of time in - could go in together. This is not content to do solo. This is content that can only find a modicum of salvation in the act of doing it with friends, so that you can at least hang out. Without a train you're all forced to be within 2 levels of each other or completely ruin any chances anyone has of progressing. If someone can't get on until the weekend, everyone has to halt their progress, or outlevel the friend who will then be left behind.

This is not my job, and it shouldn't feel like it, yet it does.