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  1. #1
    Player
    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    My personal experience with recent Pagos, so hardly a general rule, is that I feel you have less trigger happy people when it comes to pulling NM.
    I had the time to walk up half the map before anyone attacked targets like Holy Cow or Louhi. So maybe, there are less people, but I felt definitely less toxicity.
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    Nariel's Avatar
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 80
    Hopefully I finished my weapon westerday so I won't have to go back in but but yeah its slower to fullfill the instance and start the train. But nothing really change, really depend on the people here, some wll pull ASAP some other wait a bit. Otherwise nothing really change at all.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 09-25-2018 at 07:12 PM.

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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Here's to hoping those nerfs come sooner rather than later, then.
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    Eclaire De'wynter
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I went back to Anemos because I wanted to work on my DRK weapon more.


    17 people.

    left and queued again.


    Same instance.


    As someone who likes doing relics for glamour off and on, like I'm planning to do with my Anima weapon to get Aettir, I now look to 5.0 and ask myself -how? How can anyone do Anemos alone? That's not even mentioning Pagos, Pyros, and whatever the last one is. Especially since you need to do FATEs for items and crystals, or to find items.

    How can anyone do this relic now? 17 people in one instance that can fit 144, and it takes anemos crystals to upgrade your items at the end - which are either FATE only or you pray to every god in every pantheon you get one while chaining, if that's even possible.


    I don't even think nerfs will do anything. The way the relic works now pretty much screws everyone who wants to work on it once the content is dead. Sigh.
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xion136 View Post
    I went back to Anemos because I wanted to work on my DRK weapon more.


    17 people.

    left and queued again.


    Same instance.


    As someone who likes doing relics for glamour off and on, like I'm planning to do with my Anima weapon to get Aettir, I now look to 5.0 and ask myself -how? How can anyone do Anemos alone? That's not even mentioning Pagos, Pyros, and whatever the last one is. Especially since you need to do FATEs for items and crystals, or to find items.

    How can anyone do this relic now? 17 people in one instance that can fit 144, and it takes anemos crystals to upgrade your items at the end - which are either FATE only or you pray to every god in every pantheon you get one while chaining, if that's even possible.


    I don't even think nerfs will do anything. The way the relic works now pretty much screws everyone who wants to work on it once the content is dead. Sigh.
    I went in and was the only one in Anemos. 20 minutes later after doing some challenge logs there were a whopping 5 people on.

    https://imgur.com/a/DfvhQ54
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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    went in about 10pm last night, 11 people...left. Went back in, still 11 people (same instance). Left, gave it 5 minutes while I unloaded some lockboxes, back in, same instance, 14 people. Went and done Alliance Roulette instead lol I'm only on my 2nd weapon and have 5 of my last 16 light crystals needed. PPlease just let me finish my 2nd weapon before Pyros xD
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I think they should just let us buy the crystals and stuff from Anemos for tomestones now and when they release Pyros they should add the stuff from Pagos for tomestones too.

    Eureka was a huge mistake, but too much work already went into it, so they have to finish it. But please give us a backdoor to finish the relic outside of this messed up - and dead - content.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Its actually alot easier and friendlier to get the original relic weapon or the anima weapon compared to the Eureka relic.

    With Eureka's current population it is impossible.

    They said they plan on releasing pyros sooner than Pagos timeline but at the rate they are going when it gets to the last area I would be surprised if there is enough people is in the area to get anything done.

    If they dont do Pagos nerfs once pyros is released then it will become a complete fail.
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  9. #9
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    If they dont do Pagos nerfs once pyros is released then it will become a complete fail.
    Well the changes to Anemos came before Pagos was released, so there's still hope? Then again the changes were a whooping "you can buy Pazuzu feathers now" so I'm not sure how much that helps.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Well the changes to Anemos came before Pagos was released, so there's still hope? Then again the changes were a whooping "you can buy Pazuzu feathers now" so I'm not sure how much that helps.
    Basically once 5.0 hits the only thing they can do is severely nerf mob health and up light gain. Pagos is a mess because you can't really solo anything for light reliably.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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