White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Theodric]

In five years from now would you be okay with them handing out Ultimate Bahamut weapons?

I'd be fine with it. After five years, the fight would be even more irrelevant than it already is. Whenever I see someone using a weapon or title from there I cannot guarantee that they are a respectable player. Not with the numerous advertisements in the party finder that direct people to Discord to discuss 'boosts' for the content in question. The Ultimate scene is infested with dirty money and account sharing...yet mysteriously the people up in arms about these earrings are very quiet when it comes to that particular issue.

[Amiral_Benson]

The Ultimate scene is infested with dirty money and account sharing...yet mysteriously the people up in arms about these earrings are very quiet when it comes to that particular issue.

You seem to work really hard through many of your posts to spread those ideas that Feast scene or Ultimate scene, or whatever challenging content is infested with awful despicable dirty people, you make it sound like it's so infested that it doesn't worth to do that content.

You work hard to put the doubt in everyone when it comes to any players doing that content.

You work hard to take stretched urban legends and make them thousand times bigger than they are.

Why do I use the term urban legends? Because it's really what it is, something taken from one particular isolated case, and stretched and milked endlessly to taint anyone else around, and perniciously insert doubt in people's heads.

I wonder how many people have read you and people like you with the same agenda, and renounced to try those content because you convinced them it's alllllll dirty.

The truth is that last Feast season, one person was boosted, one.
Players doing Feast are watchful, pretty much everyone is on the notorious Wolf Pup Dens Discord helping each other after each game, it's growing, it's fascinating, some people are working really hard to build that community, only to see their efforts ruined by comments like yours.
The fact is you can't any more do something malicious in Feast without its all watchful community noticing it immediately, it's too obvious, that's why that one person who got a boost got caught immediately. It's one person over thousand of players, one. And yet you want everyone to think it's all dirty, full of terrible people, you have no idea how wrong you are.

And same with Ultimate scene, you want everyone to think any player there is either a seller or a buyer, that they're allllll dirty, just because you read a famous troll post once and because you see desperate announces in one PF, you want to bury its all community and taint them forever without distinction.

While the truth is that this community is like the rest of the game, full of wonderful people, full or normal people, that don't deserve to be stained like this constantly by you.

[Theodric]

You seem to work really hard through many of your posts to spread those ideas that Feast scene or Ultimate scene, or whatever challenging content is infested with awful despicable dirty people, you make it sound like it's so infested that it doesn't worth to do that content.

I'm firmly against illegal practice and cling to honour and good-sportsmanship fiercely. There's a lot I could say on the matter, though naming and shaming is against the rules.

Perhaps next time, you should dial down the mindless praise, tone policing and be a bit more objective. I didn't state that every single player is involved in cheating. I merely stated that when so many people so it, it's hard to recognise if someone can be praised for the accomplishment or not. It's very interesting how there's always a coordinated strike to derail efforts to call out such behaviour, though. I suppose that's no surprise when the guilty parties involved are making a fortune off of boosting services, though.

[Dualgunner]

I'm firmly against illegal practice and cling to honour and good-sportsmanship fiercely. There's a lot I could say on the matter, though naming and shaming is against the rules.

I'm interested in your evidence. My discord's in my signature if it's really such a private matter.

Perhaps next time, you should dial down the mindless praise, tone policing and be a bit more objective. I didn't state that every single player is involved in cheating.

No, you implied that it's infested, and that even the people not guilty explicitly were guilty implicitly through association. You also continue with some weird conspiracy theory after this quote, which only prove's Benson's point that you seem to be on some crusade. I'll hold judgment until I see definitive evidence; proof of sale, for instance, or something else equally as damning, though.

I merely stated that when so many people so it, it's hard to recognise if someone can be praised for the accomplishment or not.

Last time you brought this up, I told you how you tell the difference between a sold clear of anything and an earned clear of anything: FFLogs. Sellers don't upload the logs of their clear selling. So if a log is up, then you're safe assuming they earned their clear.

It's very interesting how there's always a coordinated strike to derail efforts to call out such behaviour, though.

One person is a "coordinated effort"? Really? Well, I suppose now two, but really?

I suppose that's no surprise when the guilty parties involved are making a fortune off of boosting services, though.

And this is what makes you look like a conspiracy monger.

[Theodric]

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Rest assured, the evidence I have has been sent to the appropriate parties both inside and outside of the game. Since screenshots and videos are not counted as official evidence as they can be edited, there's little point in leaning on them. The meaningful evidence is compiling detailed reports that include the names of suspicious players as well as the times and dates of specific incidents.

I'd be happy to discuss the matter to a degree over Discord if you really wish to do that - but it is very easy for an investigation to be thwarted and so I am leaving it in the hands of the appropriate authorities.

Now, this particular thread has long since gone off the rails...but it's likely better if we return to the original talking point which is the earrings.

I'm happy to continue the discussion over Discord, though if you want to do that.