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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Admittedly, I haven't read every post in this thread. Could you point out even one post in this thread that is like that without any exaggeration on your part?
    It was just describing envy, that really isn't an exaggeration. I'm not going out of my way to break a rule naming someone. There's already been collectors complaining they couldn't get them after seeing someone else had them/finding out they exist. Practically every post calling 1.0 players entitled for wanting something the developers themselves stated was never coming back in the future, as an incentive to stay subscribed during 1.0. I really can't post that enough it seems, yet some want to try to re-interpret a simple statement like ARR wasn't even guaranteed to happen at that point (tip: it was long since in production at that point). The producer (now executive) being incapable of keeping his, and the team he represents, promises should mean something to everyone playing.

    Even besides that. Everyone that's getting bent out of shape trying to downplay a limited pair of earrings someone else earned. "Why are you getting upset over some pixels?" No, why are you arguing over someone else's pixels if they are supposedly so meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    It was just describing envy, that really isn't an exaggeration. I'm not going out of my way to break a rule naming someone. There's already been collectors complaining they couldn't get them after seeing someone else had them/finding out they exist. Practically every post calling 1.0 players entitled for wanting something the developers themselves stated was never coming back in the future, as an incentive to stay subscribed during 1.0. I really can't post that enough it seems, yet some want to try to re-interpret a simple statement like ARR wasn't even guaranteed to happen at that point (tip: it was long since in production at that point). The producer (now executive) being incapable of keeping his, and the team he represents, promises should mean something to everyone playing.

    Even besides that. Everyone that's getting bent out of shape trying to downplay a limited pair of earrings someone else earned. "Why are you getting upset over some pixels?" No, why are you arguing over someone else's pixels if they are supposedly so meaningless.
    Perhaps I'm missing it, but I don't see these earrings named in that post, either explicitly or implicitly. It simply says there will be exclusives. In fact, it seems to point towards getting to experience the content and a goobbue mount as the exclusive thanks.

    Also, if it isn't clear by now, I'm not arguing over pixels, at least not per se. I am arguing against a particular attitude that I think is a rather cancerous element in MMORPGs. I don't care about the earrings one way or the other and they could decide to remove them from the event tomorrow and it wouldn't bother me at all. The pettiness and neediness of other players is a different matter, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Perhaps I'm missing it, but I don't see these earrings named in that post, either explicitly or implicitly. It simply says there will be exclusives. In fact, it seems to point towards getting to experience the content and a goobbue mount as the exclusive thanks.

    Also, if it isn't clear by now, I'm not arguing over pixels, at least not per se. I am arguing against a particular attitude that I think is a rather cancerous element in MMORPGs. I don't care about the earrings one way or the other and they could decide to remove them from the event tomorrow and it wouldn't bother me at all. The pettiness and neediness of other players is a different matter, however.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein View Post
    Q: A lot of people are saying that they tried to clear “The Raven, Nevermore” but couldn’t manage to before the end. So, will we be able to challenge “The Raven, Nevermore” in ARR?
    A: This content was made for our current players and was only intended for 1.0. It would also clash with the main story if it were still playable.
    Explicity: The "content" would include what he dropped, it was the finale to 1.0 made for existing players before ARR.
    Implicitly: If it wasn't part of that grouping they wouldn't have been missing for half a decade and dropped out of T9.

    Neither of those are stretching the meaning. There's very few things that fall into that category regardless aside from unusable crafting materials. The old lodestone being dead and link re-directors no longer working makes it a headache. For all I know it was on the alpha forums. I would like to believe this was all someone dropping the ball but we're probably never going to hear of it.

    That wasn't directed at yourself to be clear as well. Other people are though, maliciously, and should really take their own advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
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    That's a really twisted perception to make up to bring down someone in a game. I've yet to see anyone "lord" them over someone. You keep bringing up these examples that don't exist. Someone else having them isn't slighting someone else. Enjoy what you have and get over the envy, this isn't keeping up with the joneses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    That's a really twisted perception to make up to bring down someone in a game. I've yet to see anyone "lord" them over someone. You keep bringing up these examples that don't exist. Someone else having them isn't slighting someone else. Enjoy what you have and get over the envy, this isn't keeping up with the joneses.
    If you're using a piece of glamour from five years ago as a means to justify some kind of superiority that you're better than the person who doesn't have them or that you're still better than the people who possibly gets them now, then yes quite frankly, you are "lording" or holding something trivial over another person's head for no reason other than an ego booster.

    Situations such as those do actually exist, it's possible that you're either just turning a blind eye towards it or you're not around to see it, whatever the case that it may be. If you take a look within the Novice Network and see some of the kinds of mentors talking to newbies, you'll see prime examples of that sort of mentality. Maybe not relating towards a useless glamour item, but in the idea and concept of skills or longevity with playing the game. It's the ugly side of human nature.

    Give something special towards another person, and 9/10 chances, they'll take it one step too far and turn it into some kind of superiority complex over others. Basically, it is "lording" or hanging something over another person's head for nothing more than the satisfaction of yourself. This community can be full of people like that, they're not hard to find, just easy to ignore essentially.

    You're getting the tail end of an argument with another poster who vehemently would defend and could not, literally, take the idea that other people were disagreeing with their behavior and calling it wrong because that 1.0 player believes that no one else but him deserves those earrings. He/she could not deal with the fact that their sort of mentality could be taken as wrong against newer players. They were literally trying to keep up with the Jones's.

    It's not really fair to say that the people getting those earrings for lesser means, when they didn't even know the existence of 1.0 or even remembered that fight, were envious. You can't be envious over something you didn't care to know about five years prior, and possibly still don't care about it in the present. It's also not fair to say that those people don't deserve the earrings either simply out of a selfish mentality that you don't want them to have what you have and nothing else, when it's impossible for anyone to travel back in time five years ago at this point.
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