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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    It doesn't, I'm not the one grandstanding that no one else should be able to have my virtual goods inside of a video game. I mean, I'm sorry if other people having things that you do upsets you, but, you could just uninstall the game then if you're unhappy with the director's decision, I guess...? I may not even do the event honestly, probably won't have time and they're just earrings anyways that do absolutely nothing, so who cares. ^^
    If it doesn't upset you why so adamant over the earrings being available for nothing? :>

    Again, a lot of people like yourself only say the earrings should be available just "because."

    Meanwhile people like me have legitimate arguments such as "Why should people who did not do the content get access to the same reward?"

    That's pretty much illustrates both sides, you can say you don't care all you want, but if you didn't, you would understand why these earrings and similar items shouldn't be handed out for free. :>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    If it doesn't upset you why so adamant over the earrings being available for nothing? :>

    Again, a lot of people like yourself only say the earrings should be available just "because."

    Meanwhile people like me have legitimate arguments such as "Why should people who did not do the content get access to the same reward?"

    That's pretty much illustrates both sides, you can say you don't care all you want, but if you didn't, you would understand why these earrings and similar items shouldn't be handed out for free. :>
    And even if I had the earrings and played in 1.0, I still wouldn't care if other people had them or not. That's the difference between me and you. I don't need to "lord" having virtual earrings over other people inside of a virtual world. It's petty.

    I understand perfectly.

    ITT: People from 1.0 are mad over a lvl 50 pair of earrings that give a slashing debuff from a hard fight five years ago and hold grudges over people getting them several years later for less stressful ways.

    Why on earth would you hold a petty grudge over virtual, freaking earrings that were from five years ago? Is that really healthy to do?

    Edit: Also, you can stop with the trolling already, it's not making your point any clearer, it's only harming it. Your emotes are a surefire and clear way to see that you're doing this on purpose to try and provoke others into getting angry. That too, is also petty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    And even if I had the earrings and played in 1.0, I still wouldn't care if other people had them or not. That's the difference between me and you. I don't need to "lord" having virtual earrings over other people inside of a virtual world. It's petty.

    I understand perfectly.

    ITT: People from 1.0 are mad over a lvl 50 pair of earrings that give a slashing debuff from a hard fight five years ago and hold grudges over people getting them several years later for less stressful ways.

    Why on earth would you hold a petty grudge over virtual, freaking earrings that were from five years ago? Is that really healthy to do?
    You don't understand that even though it is a video game people put hard time and work into getting those rewards. To see them given out for nothing is a slap to the face.

    It's pretty clear none of you have any kind of real answer to "why should people who haven't done the content deserve to receive the reward from said content for free?" The only thing you guys ever say is hand wavy "oh I wouldn't care even if I did have it" even though it doesn't answer the question.

    In the end, you know it's wrong, you guys just don't care cause you are jealous, that is the biggest reason why you guys are fighting so hard to convince people stuff like this is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    You don't understand that even though it is a video game people put hard time and work into getting those rewards. To see them given out for nothing is a slap to the face.
    If you - or anybody else - feels as though it is a 'slap in the face' then that is all the more reason to take your leave of the game. It isn't healthy to continue committing to something that you feel is doing you a disservice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    If you - or anybody else - feels as though it is a 'slap in the face' then that is all the more reason to take your leave of the game. It isn't healthy to continue committing to something that you feel is doing you a disservice.
    I'm sure you think the game is perfect. If you happen to think something in the game isn't perfect then you might have to take your own advice then? :>

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    That's some leap of logic you've got there, let me tell ya, from a "no u" class argument.
    All bark but no substance. Try again champ. Kind of funny you won't respond to anything I say and flat out say "no u wrong lol"

    Maybe take a look in the mirror
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    All bark but no substance. Try again champ. Kind of funny you won't respond to anything I say and flat out say "no u wrong lol"

    Maybe take a look in the mirror
    More personal attacks? Haven't learned your lesson, I guess? Amazing what a pair of virtual earrings being given to others does to some people's maturity levels here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    More personal attacks? Haven't learned your lesson, I guess? Amazing what a pair of virtual earrings being given to others does to some people's maturity levels here.
    ?

    I gave you a argument and you flat out say I went to a class of "no u"

    I am asking you to point out what's wrong with what I said but you just outright attack me with a baseless insult.

    Maybe you need to stop projecting yourself onto me. I simply point out that you are actually the one doing those things, not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I'm sure you think the game is perfect. If you happen to think something in the game isn't perfect then you might have to take your own advice then? :>
    I don't believe that the game is perfect, actually. The difference in this case is that some players seem to be a little too emotionally invested in the game to the point where they're desperately clinging to something that happened five years ago as if it were the biggest accomplishment in their lives. As mentioned earlier, that isn't healthy. It is, in fact, rather troubling. As such, I am simply advocating for those who feel so strongly about this matter to reconsider their priorities and consider taking a step back from something that they claim is making them upset.

    I can't speak for anybody else, but if you or any of the other posters involved wishes to discuss the matter in-game and receive some emotional support then you are very welcome to do so. Unfortunately, it isn't possible to make a character on Balmung on the moment so that might be difficult in my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    [...] some players seem to be a little too emotionally invested in the game to the point where they're desperately clinging to something that happened five years ago as if it were the biggest accomplishment in their lives. As mentioned earlier, that isn't healthy. It is, in fact, rather troubling. As such, I am simply advocating for those who feel so strongly about this matter to reconsider their priorities [...] but if you or any of the other posters involved wishes to discuss the matter in-game and receive some emotional support then you are very welcome to do so.
    It isn't healthy? It's troubling?

    I think you just missed how video games evolved. Their biggest flaw lies in their name: video games, I have attended many conferences addressing this issue.

    In my country it's considered as the 10th art, and these past years, it's been also classified as a sport.
    The International Olympic Committee, along with the Global Association of the International Sports Federations are on their way of adding competitive video gaming to the Olympics.

    XIV is a game advertised as challenging and competitive, for both PvE and PvP. From the host of tournaments to media covering world clear races, it's a sport. XIV is many things, and it's also a sport.

    Among all kinds of players XIV have, some are there for the sport, its sport challenges and trophies.

    I hold the same value for my Tennis trophies and current ranking, as for my FFXIV accomplishments, as I did the exact same sportive work for both.

    I understand there's all kind of people playing FFXIV, the same way you should understand that among them there are sportsmen.
    Sports and competitions aren't unhealthy, you should not say out of nowhere that we aren't healthy, that's it's troubling, that we should seek help and emotional support towards you in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    It's pretty clear none of you have any kind of real answer to "why should people who haven't done the content deserve to receive the reward from said content for free?"
    Again, I did T9 a few years ago, which is arguably harder than Rivenroad [Hard] (I say arguably because I'm being generous. I've been informed a few pages back that it's about as hard as an Extreme Trial). T9 is a fight against Nael deus Darnus. Just beating her in T9 should be good enough for me to earn the cosmetic earring now.
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