White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Niwashi]

It's entirely possible that the dev team who said "you only have a limited time to get these rewards before the server shuts down and the fight will be done" truly did believe it. They may not even be the same team that worked on ARR. So in a sense, they'd be right. So far as they knew, these things would never have been made available again.

By what they knew at the time, the rewards wouldn't be available again because the game as a whole wouldn't be available again. That's what they were referring to there. Trying to remake and re-release it as ARR was a longshot that most didn't think would actually happen. I'm just glad the higher-ups at SE were desperate enough about saving their biggest franchise that they were willing to bet some funding on a longshot.

[Stanelis]

They're earrings. Calm down.

Not just earrings, earrings you got after a terrible grind in a broken game and a broken 30 min encounter.

[Zsolen]

So, can I get the exclusive pvp rewards soon then? Thx.

I don't see why not, as long as you are willing to PvP. The type of PvP and the success in it should determine what you should be able to obtain and not what season/year you did it.

[Canadane]

the only time i feel like legacy players should get salty is if they gave the discount to every single player, the tattoo and achievements. other then that, pixels, are pixels its a small item most people dont even care to look at, besides that waiting on more 1.0 items to be added and then to watch even more salt flow

This is an item unrelated to the legacy campaign.

[ErryK]

Not just earrings, earrings you got after a terrible grind in a broken game and a broken 30 min encounter.

In 2.0, they are just earrings.

[alimdia]

This is an item unrelated to the legacy campaign.

Even more of a reason why this shouldn't matter at all, it's just an item linked to a removed fight, they make stuff easier to get all the time.

[Stormfur]

I have been a longtime proponent of making previous PVP Feast Rewards available again -- but only after something is done about the stagnant cesspool of win-trading, boosting and leaderboard-alt-clogging nonsense that goes on there. At least cheating (in Feast) seems to have been getting a lot more attention from the account review team since the Tournament. There's a long way to go through and it really feels like the pool of PVP participation is getting smaller and smaller.

I'm anxious to see what will happen after Season 10. Will they recycle the old rewards again? Will there be another dust-up here in the forum because "You didn't earn that back in 2.x/3.x when PVP was HARD!" ? Probably.

[Stormfur]

Anyway, I do have a question for the 1.0 users who have the earrings or are otherwise upset that the rest of us can now get them too --

Since the Rising event hasn't happened yet, what if the earrings are from a level 50 fight of Nael just as it was back in 1.0? Even though we have more classes now and different abilities, the fight remains the same. Would that be an acceptable compromise?

[NarikoStar]

I'd also like to express my disappointment with the decision to add the exact item as a seasonal quest reward and strongly encourage the development team to tag this new event item with a "Replica".


While this isn't the first time we've seen a similar occurrence like this happen (Laurel Goobue, Chocobo Suit, Moogle Attire, Butler/Maids attire) this is the first occurrence of an exact item being added when previously stated it would not be obtainable again.


As others here in this thread have stated, my disappointment stems from statements being made as incentives or selling points for players to continue to support what the dev team and majority of the gaming population considered a dying and poorly executed game.

I fully understand this game is a business and such they should take advantage of where there is profit to be had, but laying out rewards and incentives for players to encourage continued payment only to go back on previous statements made, starts to become a slippery slope and really disheartens those who made a decision to support something with those promises believed to be true at the given time.


Following additional info since this thread already seems to be pretty polarizing on one side vs the other.

• At this time, all seasonal items obtained in ARR have been added to the cash shop as a purchasable item a year later. I believe it is very safe to assume this same pattern will occur with White Ravens if it is given as part of the Rising event- so in due time there is $$$ involved.
• I'm sure there are people who supported the game because they wanted to support the game at the time or found it enjoyable, (myself included). This however still does not change the fact that items were stated exclusive to the era, and were played off as something special for players from that era and portrayed as a little extra incentive for paying into poorly executed game. It becomes a matter of principle really more than anything else.

Finally, while this starts to breech off topic- I wanted to leave this here:

I uploaded this on 7/11/2013 but may have been taken a few days prior~


This was during ARR Beta Phase 3- This phases intent was to test character ports from 1.0 so shaders were not finalized, and look pretty pasty at best. Back then I would frequently see others wear this item. For us it was an accomplishment that we achieved together with friends in an era we'd never get to experience again, personally I wore it therefor afterwards as a symbol of that period, a relic long forgotten. I have one glamour I've kept universal since ARR launch, I wear it every single time I do a seasonal event, this too has the White Ravens included in it. Players sometime ask how to obtain it or what it's from and it normally starts a dialog.


I see mention of many people asking if Legacy players even wear this item, perhaps it's the server your located on doesn't have many players who have it anymore but we certainly do exist today!


Anyways, thank you for your time and consideration. While I'm displeased the decision was made to reinstate this particular item due to the nature of obtaining it- I would like to strongly suggest at least renaming it so the original still holds its meaning, symbolism, and legacy- no pun intended .

[Mikheli]

I don't see why not, as long as you are willing to PvP. The type of PvP and the success in it should determine what you should be able to obtain and not what season/year you did it.

But all anyone has to do to get the white ravens is do some event quest. How come they can't fight Nael? That's all you should need to do.