So, can I get the exclusive pvp rewards soon then? Thx.
So, can I get the exclusive pvp rewards soon then? Thx.

But all anyone has to do to get the white ravens is do some event quest. How come they can't fight Nael? That's all you should need to do.


I'd also like to express my disappointment with the decision to add the exact item as a seasonal quest reward and strongly encourage the development team to tag this new event item with a "Replica".
While this isn't the first time we've seen a similar occurrence like this happen (Laurel Goobue, Chocobo Suit, Moogle Attire, Butler/Maids attire) this is the first occurrence of an exact item being added when previously stated it would not be obtainable again.
As others here in this thread have stated, my disappointment stems from statements being made as incentives or selling points for players to continue to support what the dev team and majority of the gaming population considered a dying and poorly executed game.
I fully understand this game is a business and such they should take advantage of where there is profit to be had, but laying out rewards and incentives for players to encourage continued payment only to go back on previous statements made, starts to become a slippery slope and really disheartens those who made a decision to support something with those promises believed to be true at the given time.
Following additional info since this thread already seems to be pretty polarizing on one side vs the other.
- At this time, all seasonal items obtained in ARR have been added to the cash shop as a purchasable item a year later. I believe it is very safe to assume this same pattern will occur with White Ravens if it is given as part of the Rising event- so in due time there is $$$ involved.
- I'm sure there are people who supported the game because they wanted to support the game at the time or found it enjoyable, (myself included). This however still does not change the fact that items were stated exclusive to the era, and were played off as something special for players from that era and portrayed as a little extra incentive for paying into poorly executed game. It becomes a matter of principle really more than anything else.
Finally, while this starts to breech off topic- I wanted to leave this here:
I uploaded this on 7/11/2013 but may have been taken a few days prior~
This was during ARR Beta Phase 3- This phases intent was to test character ports from 1.0 so shaders were not finalized, and look pretty pasty at best. Back then I would frequently see others wear this item. For us it was an accomplishment that we achieved together with friends in an era we'd never get to experience again, personally I wore it therefor afterwards as a symbol of that period, a relic long forgotten. I have one glamour I've kept universal since ARR launch, I wear it every single time I do a seasonal event, this too has the White Ravens included in it. Players sometime ask how to obtain it or what it's from and it normally starts a dialog.
I see mention of many people asking if Legacy players even wear this item, perhaps it's the server your located on doesn't have many players who have it anymore but we certainly do exist today!
Anyways, thank you for your time and consideration. While I'm displeased the decision was made to reinstate this particular item due to the nature of obtaining it- I would like to strongly suggest at least renaming it so the original still holds its meaning, symbolism, and legacy- no pun intended.
Exactly. They now have no good reason to let those limited mounts stay limited anymore. The same with the merchandise ones that are out of reach. If you give something out that was kinda from another game and also a reward for a hard fight, then you cant just turn around and let other stuff stay exclusive..
Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.



it'll be good if they didExactly. They now have no good reason to let those limited mounts stay limited anymore. The same with the merchandise ones that are out of reach. If you give something out that was kinda from another game and also a reward for a hard fight, then you cant just turn around and let other stuff stay exclusive..
They can pick and choose what remains exclusive, actually. They have no obligation to add older items to the game...but they also have no obligation not to add older items to the game.Exactly. They now have no good reason to let those limited mounts stay limited anymore. The same with the merchandise ones that are out of reach. If you give something out that was kinda from another game and also a reward for a hard fight, then you cant just turn around and let other stuff stay exclusive..
As for PvP rewards, one can make the argument that they should be unlocked over time similar due to the sheer amount of win trading, boosting and throwing that exists in ranked PvP in the NA/EU datacentres...but that's a separate discussion for another thread.
I know that. But again if they somehow can throw such items into a event then no other exclusive item has at least a good reason to stay exclusive. If they do that is another question but again there is no good reason anymore why not. And anyone arguing that their mount shoud stay exclusive also has no room to argue anymore because why should theirs stay exclusive if others dont?They can pick and choose what remains exclusive, actually. They have no obligation to add older items to the game...but they also have no obligation not to add older items to the game.
As for PvP rewards, one can make the argument that they should be unlocked over time similar due to the sheer amount of win trading, boosting and throwing that exists in ranked PvP in the NA/EU datacentres...but that's a separate discussion for another thread.
Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
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