So, how is Pagos?

[Zsolen]

Doesn't that tell you something? If you cannot get a chain party because of the NM train, that means people don't want to do it. Why is that a difficult concept? There is nothing stopping you from putting up a PF before even queuing for Eureka and trying to set up a train. If no one bites, well, I guess people don't like it. Regardless, you keep prattling on about people want relics handed to them. Multiple people in this thread, on reddit and virtually everywhere have they'd prefer the Unidentifiable Orbs or Book phase from previous relics. If you think either of those were a walk in the park, you've clearly never participated. What people want are options. Before we could run different dungeons, do beast tribes or trials. Now we're restricted to Pagos and only Pagos. It's easy to say people don't have to do it, but they are allowed to give feedback. And that feedback has been overwhelmingly negative regardless of your own opinion.

I suspect the actual reason you've continuously ignored people simply wanting options is because you know they won't do the chain, which is your preferred method. Therefore, you'll fight to keep it despite accusing others of simply wanting things their way, when you're doing precisely the same thing.

That being said, I have, indeed, elected not to partake in the relic this expansion if a boring, monotones grind is all they can muster. I have Savage weapons. And in less than a month, I'll have a crafted weapon because the relics will be outdated before most people even obtain them. Quality design choice.

Once the NM train is back, gameplay will be gone and Pagos will be boring. Yes, people take the easier route, but they will never enjoy it. Why make Pagos not enjoyable for anyone, just so it is 'tolerable' for some? Wouldn't it make more sense to have varied content for different types of players rather than limiting what people can do? If something is only tolerable, why even play it? It's not like anyone really needs the relic. You say I am being selfish but much of the instances in game are not even geared towards someone like me. Do I oppose it? No. You are not asking to change it a little or even moderately for quality of life purposes. You want the zerg train, in order to get it over with. You are not looking to enjoy it. If you don't like Pagos that much, don't do it. If there aren't enough people like me, SE will take the hint.

I've done others relics, but that really shouldn't matter. You guys need to stop with the hostility. I said it earlier that is why you will not see people disagreeing all that much.