So, how is Pagos?

[Nihility]

Its not that much about efficiency, its about not having to grind trash mob for hours even at the cost of time, plus its the start, lets see how much time a full speed lv 35 train going to need to bring 300.000 xp to afk players.

I don't think 35 players are going to even bother with that.
the level 25 mobs in Anemos had terrific drop rates, the one thing that is better in Pagos is the normal mobs.

I wouldn't be surprised is the grinding stuff at 35 strategy turns into finding a camp of level 40(+?) and working on them because bosses are way too slow to show up to be worthwhile

Think about it if your grinding for crystals are you going to spend 90 minutes trying to spawn snow queen for one or are you going to chain normal mobs that can give 10-15 at a time?

[HyoMinPark]

I don't think 35 players are going to even bother with that.
the level 25 mobs in Anemos had terrific drop rates, the one thing that is better in Pagos is the normal mobs.

I wouldn't be surprised is the grinding stuff at 35 strategy turns into finding a camp of level 40(+?) and working on them because bosses are way too slow to show up to be worthwhile

Think about it if your grinding for crystals are you going to spend 90 minutes trying to spawn snow queen for one or are you going to chain normal mobs that can give 10-15 at a time?

Do the chains actually drop the Pagos crystals though. I was chaining for 6 hours on Tuesday, and the only Pagos Crystals I received were from the NMs—not a single one dropped from the mobs we were killing (Blood Demon and the Worms). The Frosted Protean crystals, if I recall correctly from what I’ve read, come from your Light Farming.

[Claviusnex]

Do the chains actually drop the Pagos crystals though. I was chaining for 6 hours on Tuesday, and the only Pagos Crystals I received were from the NMs—not a single one dropped from the mobs we were killing (Blood Demon and the Worms). The Frosted Protean crystals, if I recall correctly from what I’ve read, come from your Light Farming.

I've had the same result. One lockbox and crystal from one NM out of the few I participated in. I have yet to see anything other than XP from mobs.

Quick thought: they could have added far more magicite or similar items hidden all over the map and discovering them would yield some exp, like sightseeing logs. I think people would appreciate any alternative exp methods to supplement enemy grinding. The main flaw in eureka is enemy grinding alone is too shallow an activity to stretch for the amount of hours we need to spend there. You notice too quickly how repetitive and slow-motion it feels with enemies having a lot of HP and yielding little exp for the trouble to pad things out. We need more exp methods for variety, like discovery/sightseeing and the bunny thing, but let people have a guaranteed carrot per day from an npc at Icepoint and reward exp for uncovering the bunny loot.

I have thought adding in unique crafting materials and treasure boxes like you see in Diadem would help by letting you do something other than mindlessly kill mobs.

[Nariel]

I don't think 35 players are going to even bother with that.
the level 25 mobs in Anemos had terrific drop rates, the one thing that is better in Pagos is the normal mobs.

I wouldn't be surprised is the grinding stuff at 35 strategy turns into finding a camp of level 40(+?) and working on them because bosses are way too slow to show up to be worthwhile

Think about it if your grinding for crystals are you going to spend 90 minutes trying to spawn snow queen for one or are you going to chain normal mobs that can give 10-15 at a time?

People instantly start a train day one and he's going faster and faster as people start getting a lot of xp on those fates are leveling up, if you think that will change because a minority of player can endure the grind chore you'll be disapointed.