So, how is Pagos?

[Yzuna]

I also kinda like the social aspect that the FATE train may have.
But that's pretty much the only thing about FATE train that I like. It's an easy, boring, uninteresting shit.

Not to say that chaining is better. It's easy, boring and also not very interesting. And on top of that you can't really chat or you risk breaking the chain.
Chain party could have been more interesting if the mobs wasn't just HP sponge dummies and combat gameplay was more than just spam your rotation.

All in all, and it really pains me to say it, but I'd rather do FATE train than chain party.
But, I'll just skip this entierely. I have no interest for boring content.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Every Pagos I've been in since the patch has had NMs popping in multiple places, because people are still chaining. If you're riding the train and "bored", it's your choice; the option to chain is still there and even more alive than it was in Anemos.

Or are you just bitter that not everybody is being forced into doing the thing you like to do?

[Mixt]

7 Louhi kills and counting.

Still no TT card.

Only need 3 more light for the relic though, so getting there


EDIT: 10 Louhi kills, no card.
Does this thing even drop the card?
One guy made the claim that it comes from bunny chests...

EDIT 2: Nevermind, it finally dropped on the 11'th kill.
And i'm now down to needing only 1 more light level for the relic.
Almost done with Pagos now.

[Azper]

Even after the adjustments, I'm still not participating in or encouraging this content. Maybe I'm a little jaded after playing for 5 years, but whereas I used to feel the need to complete everything, these days if it's not fun then I just don't do it. With how they procedurally generate content, all efforts are rendered pointless in 3-6 months anyway. Even as a glamour enthusiast, I cannot be bothered to work toward this relic anymore. They can keep it.

[Yzuna]

With how they procedurally generate content, all efforts are rendered pointless in 3-6 months anyway.

And that's a large part of a much larger problem FFXIV has. 80-90% of the content/items are pretty much dead/useless a few months after release. They work a lot to create stuff...that have, at best, a few months lifespawn.

In some others games, you knew why you would do not so fun content. To get a long lasting weapon/skill/spell/armor/whatever.
Here, it's just something that will be outdated very quickly.

[Solarra]

I decided to go back in and see how it was after the changes.
I got two levels in a couple of sessions (4hrs approx) despite dying once trying to get to my group and losing xp.

It's still frustrating and the penalty on having people of different levels in your group is a pain. Trying to spawn Snow Queen I realised that I wasn't getting any credit for the challenge log, we had one level 34 in the group while the rest were between 27 and 31. Oh well I thought, at least they're helping to spawn, then I noticed they were hugging the Aetheryte afk. A little while later they left and somebody else joined, they were level 21... So, despite killing plenty of mobs, my challenge log is still incomplete.
I'm not blaming the group leader because I've tried forming groups myself and the alternative is to wait out a sizeable portion of your time trying to get enough people of the right level together. Are the people saying chaining is more efficient taking the time it takes to form a group into account? Or have I just been very unlucky?

The atmosphere in there is still pretty bad compared to Anemos. Getting a raise is still hard if my experience and all the shouts going out is anything to go by. As somebody said earlier, it's not snow in there, it's salt.

After I came out I asked myself the question, 'Was that fun?' and to be honest, no, I cannot say I enjoyed it at all. It passed the time, I did feel I got something out of it but it wasn't fun.

[Xau]

the alternative is to wait out a sizeable portion of your time trying to get enough people of the right level together. Are the people saying chaining is more efficient taking the time it takes to form a group into account? Or have I just been very unlucky?

most of the chainers might be getting their groups by making them on pf instead of making them on the instance, you still have to wait on that situation anyway

[Solarra]

most of the chainers might be getting their groups by making them on pf instead of making them on the instance, you still have to wait on that situation anyway

Yes, when I went in there was one PF group for people over lvl 30 and the second time none. It seems like you should be prepared for a wait whichever way you try to do it. At least Anemos was somewhere you could pretty much jump straight in. A level-synch would help so much.

[Zsolen]

When I was in there yesterday, I didn't see much in the way of toxic behavior and people were being rezzed. However, it was only one group session and a small amount of a solo session for challenge log.

Yes, when I went in there was one PF group for people over lvl 30 and the second time none. It seems like you should be prepared for a wait whichever way you try to do it. At least Anemos was somewhere you could pretty much jump straight in. A level-synch would help so much.

I only join PFs with a level range or more often than not create a pf. Some people just wait for someone else to create a PF.

[LalafellDown]

SE what the heck is going on in the creativity department? Please add something to the mindless killing. My fingers hurt and I'm only level 5 in Anemos. If Pagos is just like this then this isn't worth it. If dying from boredom waiting on fate trains or carpal tunnel is your way of fun then I'll pass.