So, how is Pagos?

[Rufalus]

Yeah it's probably more fun later on. The beginning is very tedious when there aren't any high level players around to farm enemies faster. We're all trapped in the beginner section of the map for too many hours, leveling very slowly. Feels a bit punishing and unfun to do on release, but if you wait until later then you'll be earning the weapons when they're already obsolete statwise since a simple crafted weapon next month will trump these elemental ones.

[Stormfur]

I like the addition of the challenge log. It gets people working together on various tasks. I kind of wish we had more of that to help break up the monotony of "kill this mob, wait for NM to spawn".

[drchesed]

I like the addition of the challenge log. It gets people working together on various tasks. I kind of wish we had more of that to help break up the monotony of "kill this mob, wait for NM to spawn".

This is what I think would help a lot. Smaller goals on the way to larger goals. Have a feeling of progression with small xp rewards in between. I like the fact people are looking for specific groups that work on a similar goal, but are divided up since everyone does things in their own order.

The pace is a slog. And it's obviously meant to be that way, especially since we only have 15 levels instead of 20. More carrots, pls.

[MageBlack]

Is there an eLev sync in Eureka yet?

[Wyvernheart]

I had no idea you all were so weak. How did It come to this?

[ManuelBravo]

I had no idea you all were so weak. How did It come to this?

You mean besides the whole no exp loss experience, the endless nerfs of easy content? who knows -.-

[ElazulHP]

I'm glad they added the challenge log or the first two levels would have been a huuuuge pain. It's funny though after 1 day there is already a NM train for the first couple of NM's in the region due to the identification and mapping work being done over on Reddit.

[Vaer]

Anemos is viable.. just slow after a certain point but safe and braindead. After hitting 21 the exp jumps by 2x to 600k which would be really really slow. 20-21 is doable though, its only 300k. Saw some people that were 22-23 in there yesterday.

At least you get mendacity until the cap.

[Erudito]

Been a while since I posted but, sadly, I have to say its bad and unfriendly.

Most important thing in Eureka is to level. Well, leveling is dreadful, even more so than Anemos. You can't kill mobs that are at your own level without having major difficulty, if at all. You can't do anything without a party so it excludes those that want to do at least something solo. No good ways to level outside of Challenge log and FATEs, which is sad. Exp/level reduction is active from the get go, so exploring the place is also out, something I had fun with in the first Eureka when it started since I could go anywhere without penalty, now you are bound to the grind from beginning to end.

Its just a grind fest. There is nothing else there for us but a grind. Cool, better weapons and loot? Start grinding and pray RNG helps. Spoilers: RNG helps nobody. Leveling? Grind upon grind. Exploration? Level up so you don't die, hence, go grind. Story? Hahahahaha, go grind then we'll talk.

You know what the worst part of it all is, since this is the second time around this system, I am even starting to think that the Diadem is better than this. At least there you had lots of little things to do all over the place that would get you the loot you wanted after a while.

[Souljacker]

I could be wrong about the total time - I thought that the pirate event would extend the time on the ferry. It's been a long time. they were definitely at least 15+ minutes though minimum just for the ride - which is 15 minutes longer than any other game took to get from point A to point B. And yes, you *could* fish off it if you wanted to - as I recall Nebimonite was good fishing there - but you had to have an interest in fishing and not just getting to your next destination to do whatever cool thing you wanted to do. Otherwise you were AFK below decks or (more often and more safely) afk next to the NPC at the wheel topside. I think that Sea Monk mob would sometimes aggro through the floor. Anyway, it just wasn't all that awesome once the novelty wore off.

Am I glad it's still there as an option? Yea. Dat Nostalgia. It's nice to hop on the airship and watch Vana'diel from above or take a ride on the manaclipper. They were cool ideas. You and I are in agreement in that XI was SE's crowning achievement and nothing they did before or since has been as epic (and I hope that you didn't take this one criticism of the game as some kind of indication that I think XI was bad).

But that doesn't mean that this particular bit was forward-thinking. The game should always give us incentive to play it. Content that lets or worse, encourages (Eureka) you to afk and do something else is not content at all. You are no longer playing the game you paid for. You are paying to have your character wait around for something interesting to happen. Remember, the ferry ride wasn't the only travel option that took x amount of minutes for no other reason than it *could*.

The days where I was tolerant to that kind of stuff were left long behind, and even XI's team eventually realized that stuff like AFK while traveling is not really content.