We need another Housing purge

[illgot]

The difference is having a bunch of characters running retainers doesn't require you to hog a limited resource. The number of retainers you have has no impact on how many retainers your neighbor can have. As long as workshops are tied to housing, whether it be FC or personal, it's going to encourage people like Oliver to hoard them at the detriment of others. Workshops would need to be decoupled from housing entirely and make 100% public and easily accessible for your comparison to hold true.

and if the airships and subs were put into a non housed location, as per my suggestion, it wouldn't either. Place subs and airships where anyone can access them without the requirement of houses or an FC.

My guess is because when making polices in the first place, they did not expect anyone to do this and act like this. Now you have to have them investigate and see what they can trace in game, who knows if they have logs going back far enough. Then even after all that is said and done, no matter what they do, they have a strict private policy to deal with. Since this person was very open, no matter what they do, or even explain what is truly a violation or not, it implies action taken on someone end ends up stuck.

The Japanese players have been doing this since housing and FCs existed. It is nothing new. If the developers are shocked that people will own multiple houses and FCs just to run multiple gardens and airships/subs and buffs... they haven't been reading this forum in the last, what 4 years.

[Alleo]

The temp rules!! No where does it say you could not have every character on a single world in a FC.

So? We are not talking about owning different FCs..we are talking about FC with houses and as the screenshot you posted mentioned, you cant own a house with a FC if you already own one or are just a normal member in that FC. Again..this is about housing x). Why do you argue about being in a FC if that is not even abot the topic itself?

[sexythaumaturge]

Honestly, it seems that a Purge-like scenario is the only fix to the current housing system. One day in a year, anything goes. Worldwide PvP is enabled, with people murdering each other and claiming their houses.

I can't see any other feasible way to get a Medium.

Also, to the cat person who has 18 houses, congrats on being the worst.

[Hamada]

So? We are not talking about owning different FCs..we are talking about FC with houses and as the screenshot you posted mentioned, you cant own a house with a FC if you already own one or are just a normal member in that FC. Again..this is about housing x). Why do you argue about being in a FC if that is not even abot the topic itself?

Remember this quote too:

Oliver was able to pull off getting multiple FC homes on one account cause the changes had no effect on the FC system. So someone with multiple characters in Multiple FC's with homes on the same world, could have every character promoted to leader resulting in all the homes becoming theirs. Using a second account just allowed them to buy the homes themselves and even that is not needed as you could just take over someone giving away or selling their FC with a house. Which is why in my previous post I kept stating the FC system> Housing System..

I am just confused, I do not think they are even trying to understand what is being discussed. "I kept stating the FC system> Housing System" makes no sense, I do not even know what they are trying to get at

[OliverB]

Remember this quote too:

I am just confused, I do not think they are even trying to understand what is being discussed. "I kept stating the FC system> Housing System" makes no sense, I do not even know what they are trying to get at

Of course you wouldn't understand, you haven't since you started posting in here. There's never been any actual limitations on how many FCs you could own on an account, which is directly linked to how many FC houses you can own. As I explained before, you can't prevent people from inheriting houses through the FC system, regardless of how "legal" you think those methods are.

[Skivvy]

Of course you wouldn't understand, you haven't since you started posting in here. There's never been any actual limitations on how many FCs you could own on an account, which is directly linked to how many FC houses you can own. As I explained before, you can't prevent people from inheriting houses through the FC system, regardless of how "legal" you think those methods are.

It's a loophole, some could argue an exploit. The game does not allow you to purchase multiple FC houses on the same account. The rules for purchasing a FC state that you cannot already own one. That alone seems to make it clear that SE's intent was to not allow FCs to own multiple houses.

However, as you mentioned, there is a way around the rules set in place, and that is by transferring ownership of an FC from a separate account to one of your alts on the account that already has FC housing. Rinse and repeat.

So yes, while the game allows it, it doesn't change the fact it's an exploit. If it wasn't one, we'd all be able to buy as many houses as we wanted on a single account.

[OliverB]

It's a loophole, some could argue an exploit. The game does not allow you to purchase multiple FC houses on the same account. The rules for purchasing a FC state that you cannot already own one. That alone seems to make it clear that SE's intent was to not allow FCs to own multiple houses.

However, as you mentioned, there is a way around the rules set in place, and that is by transferring ownership of an FC from a separate account to one of your alts on the account that already has FC housing. Rinse and repeat.

So yes, while the game allows it, it doesn't change the fact it's an exploit. If it wasn't one, we'd all be able to buy as many houses as we wanted on a single account.

How many times do I have to say it? There are no ongoing restrictions as to how many FC houses you can buy on the same account right now. You can load up 8 FC houses on a single service account without help from anyone, as long as you have the money, the minimum FC rank, 4 players in the FC at the time of purchase, a character at lvl 50 with the required GC rank.

[Alleo]

How many times do I have to say it? There are no ongoing restrictions as to how many FC houses you can buy on the same account right now. You can load up 8 FC houses on a single service account without help from anyone, as long as you have the money, the minimum FC rank, 4 players in the FC at the time of purchase, a character at lvl 50 with the required GC rank.

But there was one. The one restriction that was going on for a bit when you could only own one FC house per account. So if you were in a FC that owned a house you could not get another one on any character on the account/world. Since you posted that you need to transfer the rights from another account this sounds like you did that while the restriction was in place otherwise if there was none you would not have needed the transfer between accounts.

You also wrote how you would buy houses which again is against the ToS.

[OliverB]

But there was one. The one restriction that was going on for a bit when you could only own one FC house per account. So if you were in a FC that owned a house you could not get another one on any character on the account/world. Since you posted that you need to transfer the rights from another account this sounds like you did that while the restriction was in place otherwise if there was none you would not have needed the transfer between accounts.

You also wrote how you would buy houses which again is against the ToS.

At the time, transferring my FC houses onto the same account and re-arranging who owned what was the sole purpose. Finding out that I could suddenly purchase an extra house, without buying someone's property was nothing but an accident. Besides, I could have purchased a house on my third account anyway. Literally no harm was done since the ward remained half empty until the embargo on personal houses was removed.

SE doesn't care about what happens 1 on 1. As long as both parties have given consent and are satisfied. Trading houses isn't against any rules and GMs don't care about whatever you have to say unless you are being involved.

[Chalbee]

You'd think this person has never heard of "just because you can doesn't mean you should." I find it absolutely amazing how shamelessly some people wear their greed like a badge of honor, and seem to expect praise for being the most clever little child in the sandbox.