We need another Housing purge

[Skivvy]

As mentioned up above, you all are barking up the wrong tree. This thread is now seemingly all about a single person, on a single server and how greedy they are. Now there's bickering over who is being insulting and who isn't. This thread had some potential, now it's popcorn level.

[Sigma-Astra]

so now I own a whole district of houses because I think SE should fix their housing issue instead of just witch hunting players who play with in the rules.

If you want to be rude and problematic towards this thread, then go ahead, but I'm not getting into this with you after you just jumped 10 yards with that comment and basically you just started putting words into my mouth, jumping to your own conclusions, and running wild with them to fit some kind of narrative that never even existed until you fabricated it just now. I don't feel like getting banned because you're a little bit unhinged right now. Have a good evening...or I guess maybe morning.

[KaivaC]

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We can go back and forth on 3.2 all night, but you and I are in agreement about them aggravating other posters. It was possible to trade back before the housing revamp. I've done it when I was trying to get my old FC a house for us. With the new system, it isn't possible. At least not to my knowledge. I'm not taking issue with what they did. That's the devs fault for not having the foresight to both see that players would do it, and for not providing additional FC buffs that would discourage the advantage of having additional houses. My issue I take with Oliver, as you and others have with them, is that they are essentially bragging about it. If they didn't want to upset the forums anymore, they should've stopped using their 2 or 3 accounts to continue arguing and belittling

[illgot]

We can go back and forth on 3.2 all night, but you and I are in agreement about them aggravating other posters. It was possible to trade back before the housing revamp. I've done it when I was trying to get my old FC a house for us. With the new system, it isn't possible. At least not to my knowledge. I'm not taking issue with what they did. That's the devs fault for not having the foresight to both see that players would do it, and for not providing additional FC buffs that would discourage the advantage of having additional houses. My issue I take with Oliver, as you and others have with them, is that they are essentially bragging about it. If they didn't want to upset the forums anymore, they should've stopped using their 2 or 3 accounts to continue arguing and belittling

let the poster brag, if anything it just brings to light another issue with housing and why people want to run multiple FCs at once. The problem is not with the players, even the Japanese players do this, the problem is the system is flawed and has been since its inception. You can never trust people to share everything equally, to expect that behavior in a game is insane.

The only real way to fix the housing issue is to all players what ever size house they want and access to airships. SE may have to just commit to the housing resources into creating instanced housing and moving airships and subs into an area all people have access to.

This topic should be about fixing the housing system, not witch hunting player who will be grandfathered into the new rules.

[Alleo]

Yes you are correct but apparently some others are not understanding what I am trying to say. It NOT being a breech now does not change the fact they clearly did that while it was in place otherwise they wouldn't have done it if it was not for getting around that limitation.
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Exactly. They would not have needed to do the change with the other accounts, if they did get the houses while the restricions were off..(also SE..why exactly give us those rules and only have them active for such a short amount of time? I really believed that this was active all the time..)

But maybe its just better to ignore them.

Not that I am defending them as I don't agree with their actions at all, but 3.2, like some of the other policy rules, could be applied and interpreted in multiple ways, depending on who is applying the violation. If SE really wanted to say that they were disrupting other players, I imagine they'd have taken action against the Mateus couple who hold an entire ward (do they still own that ward today?)

The couple got their housing before the rules were set up and I am not really sure if they bought houses from other people. So in that case they did do nothing wrong. That is the reason why we had those 1 FC house per account rules so that this cant happen, but seemingly it was only there temporarily..The person in this thread stated that they needed to change housing by using more than one account, which sounds like they did that while the rules were still there, otherwise they could have just bought more houses on the same account with alts. So that is against the stated rules because they did everything to go beyond them.

[KaivaC]

The couple got their housing before the rules were set up and I am not really sure if they bought houses from other people. So in that case they did do nothing wrong. That is the reason why we had those 1 FC house per account rules so that this cant happen, but seemingly it was only there temporarily..The person in this thread stated that they needed to change housing by using more than one account, which sounds like they did that while the rules were still there, otherwise they could have just bought more houses on the same account with alts. So that is against the stated rules because they did everything to go beyond them.

If I remember the kotaku article, that couple said they bought the houses because there was nobody else buying them and because the server was not as populated at the time. Technically, they didn't do anything wrong because there weren't rules preventing this. The user here...well, if SE were to take action, they certainly left more than enough evidence that would get them in trouble.

[NotOliverB]

This on the other hand, they know well enough it is making people mad and yet they continue.

Maybe you should stop being upset about video games.

[NanaWiloh]

Exactly. They would not have needed to do the change with the other accounts, if they did get the houses while the restricions were off..(also SE..why exactly give us those rules and only have them active for such a short amount of time? I really believed that this was active all the time..)

But maybe its just better to ignore them.



The couple got their housing before the rules were set up and I am not really sure if they bought houses from other people. So in that case they did do nothing wrong. That is the reason why we had those 1 FC house per account rules so that this cant happen, but seemingly it was only there temporarily..The person in this thread stated that they needed to change housing by using more than one account, which sounds like they did that while the rules were still there, otherwise they could have just bought more houses on the same account with alts. So that is against the stated rules because they did everything to go beyond them.

Oliver was able to pull off getting multiple FC homes on one account cause the changes had no effect on the FC system. So someone with multiple characters in Multiple FC's with homes on the same world, could have every character promoted to leader resulting in all the homes becoming theirs. Using a second account just allowed them to buy the homes themselves and even that is not needed as you could just take over someone giving away or selling their FC with a house. Which is why in my previous post I kept stating the FC system> Housing System..

[illgot]

Oliver was able to pull off getting multiple FC homes on one account cause the changes had no effect on the FC system. So someone with multiple characters in Multiple FC's with homes on the same world, could have every character promoted to leader resulting in all the homes becoming theirs. Using a second account just allowed them to buy the homes themselves and even that is not needed as you could just take over someone giving away or selling their FC with a house. Which is why in my previous post I kept stating the FC system> Housing System..

Some of the people do not understand or care about the issue in this thread, for them it is a witch hunt purely for the drama.

The issue with housing is that FCs, having multiple FCs, offers too much of an advantage. The requirement to own a house and FC to run workshops, airships, and buffs is horrible design. No FC should be required to own a house to do this and honestly these features should not be locked to an FC. Allow FC buffs last longer than 24 hours, but there is no reason for workshops and airships to solely be accessible to FCs. It is cutting out a lot of content for 99% of the player base.

If houses are eliminated from the equation to access these features, there will be zero desire for people to own multiple FCs. Eliminate the need, change how the features function but don't witch hunt players for entertainment.

[Lambdafish]

What I really don't understand is why this Oliver person can't answer Dusty simply on their main forum account and not going back and forth between their alts. That has to be annoying and/or tiring.

Attention. They are a troll at best, and a detriment to the community at worst. The fact that the system allows for people like that is upsetting.