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    Jehuty Norixius
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    We need another Housing purge

    Or instanced housing. One or the other with how a single guild can own 10 houses under their name.
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    I don't understand what you're saying.

    Do you mean rip personals from people who have an fc house?
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    Auto-demo has been back in effect for a while now. So the houses are being used by their owners.
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    I'll bring the gasoline.... >.> What just a suggestion
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    sickness must be purged
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    From what I’m seeing, wards are a lot more active than they used to be. I don’t think we need another purge as housing reclamation effectively keeps plots in the hands of those who want and will use them. What you’re asking for is for SE to forcefully take plots from those who have an excess, which has nothing to do with the original purge tbh. The purge was meant to correct a situation where players would buy houses and quit the game, turning wards into ghost towns and making an already limited resource even scarcer, and was actually a side effect of SE introducing the reclamation mechanic. It happened because so many timers ran out at once, not because SE took any plots away.
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    From what I’m seeing, wards are a lot more active than they used to be. I don’t think we need another purge as housing reclamation effectively keeps plots in the hands of those who want and will use them. What you’re asking for is for SE to forcefully take plots from those who have an excess, which has nothing to do with the original purge tbh. The purge was meant to correct a situation where players would buy houses and quit the game, turning wards into ghost towns and making an already limited resource even scarcer, and was actually a side effect of SE introducing the reclamation mechanic. It happened because so many timers ran out at once, not because SE took any plots away.
    No it wasn't. If wards were turned into a ghost town, people would buy those houses gladly once they were reclaimed. SE didn't change the rules regarding this, other than a freeze on reclamation due to natural disasters effecting a large number of players.

    The change in rules was regarding specifically the issue addressed, that each players can have one personal house, and that each FC can have one house, while supplies last. It specifically states that any attempts to skirt around these rules are also against the rules, which we can see here. Further changes are being made to make personal houses available for the entire account, further cementing that a personal house is for 1 player, and not for 1 character.

    Additional changes were so that FC housing would be reclaimed if the FC had not enough members to consider it legitimate. What we see however is that these FC's are made up of the same people with alternate characters. You only need 4 players to own 16 houses.

    What we see here is an obviously violation of the rules, and SE should crack down on it.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Additional changes were so that FC housing would be reclaimed if the FC had not enough members to consider it legitimate. What we see however is that these FC's are made up of the same people with alternate characters. You only need 4 players to own 16 houses.

    What we see here is an obviously violation of the rules, and SE should crack down on it.
    So what? Take someone's house because they choose to be apart of a small FC? It's one thing if that same person has multiple houses on their account between different characters, but another entirely if they just have a small FC with a few friends.
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    No it wasn't. If wards were turned into a ghost town, people would buy those houses gladly once they were reclaimed. SE didn't change the rules regarding this, other than a freeze on reclamation due to natural disasters effecting a large number of players.

    The change in rules was regarding specifically the issue addressed, that each players can have one personal house, and that each FC can have one house, while supplies last. It specifically states that any attempts to skirt around these rules are also against the rules, which we can see here. Further changes are being made to make personal houses available for the entire account, further cementing that a personal house is for 1 player, and not for 1 character.

    Additional changes were so that FC housing would be reclaimed if the FC had not enough members to consider it legitimate. What we see however is that these FC's are made up of the same people with alternate characters. You only need 4 players to own 16 houses.

    What we see here is an obviously violation of the rules, and SE should crack down on it.
    you are making up rules.

    The rules state that each character can only have one personal house and own one FC house.

    Character, not player. You keep insisting it is player based but the housing rules are character based.

    It is impossible for a character to now acquire more than 1 personal house and own one FC house. There is no "skirting" the rule because it is impossible to now bypass that rule. The characters who were grandfathered in are also not breaking any rules... because they were grandfathered in to the new system intentionally.
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    Last edited by illgot; 07-07-2018 at 07:02 PM.

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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Additional changes were so that FC housing would be reclaimed if the FC had not enough members to consider it legitimate. What we see however is that these FC's are made up of the same people with alternate characters. You only need 4 players to own 16 houses.
    There were no changes made with the post-4.1 housing to reclaim FCs; the only changes were that now, FCs had to have at least 4 members, and none of them could be in a different FC already. Nothing was done to solo-FCs that owned properties before these new rules were put in place with the introduction of Wards 13 through 18; they were all grandfathered in like the multiple plot owners were.

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They really should've just imposed a "One house per account period" restriction instead of allowing for FCs to be used as a loophole.

    House hording is enough of an issue just with alt accounts involved.
    No, thank you. Because what happens if a player that happens to be in an FC (not the leader), but owns a personal house is suddenly made leader because the FC leader went AWOL and ownership transferred. Are they to just lose their personal house now because they happened to suddenly receive ownership of an FC house? FC houses are owned by the entirety of the FC’s members, not just the leader. Hence why there is a “1 personal, 1 FC” rule.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-08-2018 at 01:43 AM.
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