Housing relocation is crap!

[Cylla]

Demolition is a good addition. Even if you go away for 1 month (30 days) you're still good, 1.5 month (45 days) is when you lose your house and you get multiple warnings.

If we didn't have demolition in place, we'd just have full wards with inactive players. I don't want that again.

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off. I'm on Goblin (I left Balmung actually just a few weeks ago), and there is a ton of houses open. No large, but handful of mediums and a ton of smalls. Two M opened in Shiro the other day, one still up for sale.

I've been on the end of the whole demo ordeal. I lost my large that I worked my ass off for due to life happening, it whatever, but it still shitty in the end. It was on Balmung so I just shrugged, knew I wasn't getting anything ever again on that server and decided to pack up and leave.

Point is, nobody should have to lose content just because they want to take a break when content is dry or if life happens. Tell me a game that take something away from you when you stop paying your sub? To my knowledge, there isn't an MMO out there that does that. It sure as hell shouldn't be like that here, not in this age of MMO's. And I mean it not just housing either, glamour system broken and limited, storage is still horrible, and the list goes on to all kinds of little things. If they couldn't have met the demands of all their player base when it came to housing, they should've never released it until they could. We'd not be here right now if they had and there be no need for a demo timer, buy timer, etc.

Again though it like I said, it is what it is and we're being punished for their errors.

Edit - I just want to add on the whole multiple warning thing. If I remember correctly not long after my house got demo, and yes, I did get the warnings but again, life happens and there was nothing I could do about it... SE screwed some people by not sending out warnings of their timer running down. Honestly, imo, I wouldn't even trust SE to send those multiple warnings or send them on time. I've heard cases of where people got the emails late.
As for wards also being inactive, they are no matter what. Even coming from Balmung, I rarely saw people in my ward.. Goblet I can understand but LB, even when I had my large after the relocation/new buying went in, I very rarely saw people about.

[NephthysVasudan]

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Sorry...but I'm going to be the evil Au Ra and tell you to "get over it"

You get 45 days.
45 DAYS....over a month....to step into your house... ONCE....to reset the clock.
For a limited resource...that is more than generous.

If it was so valuable to you...so important...I would think you'd bother to take care of your "precious" hard worked house.

But nope..you come here complaining about YOUR mistake.

Makes total sense.

Real life is important yes...but don't take it out on the system because you can't prioritize your life to your standards.
Make all the excuses you want....you had plenty of time to take care of it.

Bottom line - the house wasn't nearly as important to you as you made it out to be now was it?

The system is perfect in terms of recovery....people should take more responsibility for limited resources in game.
If they can't handle that...they shouldn't have access to it in the first place.

Yeah..life happens...but stop being a child in blaming the game for your inability to manage time.

[Sotaris]

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off.

So let see if i understand, you want demo on a busy server such as Balmung, but on a small server you don't? Huh?

Say all larges are being taken by players, not FC. They quit the game. Their larges will never be available for FC or other players. How is that fair?

I understand and can agree to some extent about losing your stuff but bottom line is you get 45 days to enter your house, that's fair i think, even if you have to stop logging in a for a time.

[Cylla]

I think your all missing the point I'm making.
Just because I brought up losing my house doesn't mean I'm butt hurt over it. I moved servers, got another one. I could rarely give a flying f*ck. I didn't come here crying like the OP over the ordeal. I'm pointing out the fact that, it shouldn't be happening at all. Housing system is bad.

Nobody here has yet answered my question of: What other MMO take content away from it player base?

No, we're all focused on the, "Oh she lost her house, she's crying about it."

You know what, this is why I gave up fighting for fairness and a better system that everyone could have if they wanted it.
If you people would read, my first post to the OP was a lot like everyone else who replied with the, "To bad, so sad".
"Accept it or don't. This is how the system works." It doesn't mean that I agree with the way it handled or that the system is perfect as most of you like to rave that it is (lol).
I could give two damns about it. I have a house. May as well be like everyone else here.
"I have it. I don't give a damn if you don't or lost it!"

tl;dr
Don't give a flying f*uck about losing my house seeing as I have one again.
Housing system is bad no matter how you try to defend it.
Nobody answers the actual question
To much stupid from Nephthys to deal with.

I'm done with this.

Edit - @Jojoya - You said no game is able to meet the demands of it player base, I'm not even talking about demands. However, here something for you to chew on.
To my knowledge, and just for I.E - AION has a housing system, it supports all it player base. Wildstar, while never played it, I do believe support all it player base. World of Warcraft, in all areas can support it player base. This is just to name a few, so please, list off the one's that can't support it player base in content and feel the need to take away that content from you if you aren't sub to their game.

So what SE excuse? Oh right, it running on what seems like at least 10+ year old servers...

Oh yes, and let use the "find a different game to play if this doesn't meet up to your expectations." Heavens forbid that I enjoy this game and would like to see it get better. Yeah totally, guess I'll just go to a new game.. *rolls eyes*

But whatever, don't care anymore o/

[NephthysVasudan]

Emoraging/

If you didn't give a flying frak...you'd not have mentioned it in the first place.
And your question is irrelevant because you knew what you where walking into when you got your house in the first place.

As for the demo timer being removed while subscribed? I disagree.

Too many people buy a house and hold them hostage...its not fair to anyone else who want a house..especially on crowded servers such as balmung.

[Claviusnex]

Too many people buy a house and hold them hostage...its not fair to anyone else who want a house..especially on crowded servers such as balmung.

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

[NephthysVasudan]

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

If you care so much...then you can be bothered to spend 5 mins to sign in...walk into your house..and log off.
Problem solved.

Once every 45 days is not going to kill anyone.
You people are utterly amazing with your utter selfishness.

For the issues that are present...the system is still better off than it was before.

[Sotaris]

Hold them hostage? That's nothing more than a euphemism for someone not doing what others like with their house. If someone buys a house it is nobodies business what they do with it. As for the crowded servers nothing is going to fix that other than SE providing a housing system that can support all of the players that currently and in the future want to own a home. Instead of biting the bullet SE just sits back and watches the players fight among themselves over what band-aid might give one disgruntled player a house, buying more time for SE to ignore the issue.

Neph have a point though, housing is limited. Auto demolition serves a purpose, if you leave the game for more than 45 days you lose it. It's fair game.

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Damn someone is salty.

What other MMO take content away from it player base?

Can't say, havn't played other MMO since FF11 and took away inventory if you didn't play longer.

But i ask you AGAIN, how is it fair to rest of the player base that want house if you (in theory) bought a large or medium (since they are more in demand) and quit the game or were gone for a long period of time? It's not.

I never claimed housing is without it flaws but it much better than it was before. Were you even around for that?

[Jojoya]

Edit - @Jojoya - You said no game is able to meet the demands of it player base, I'm not even talking about demands. However, here something for you to chew on.
To my knowledge, and just for I.E - AION has a housing system, it supports all it player base. Wildstar, while never played it, I do believe support all it player base. World of Warcraft, in all areas can support it player base. This is just to name a few, so please, list off the one's that can't support it player base in content and feel the need to take away that content from you if you aren't sub to their game.

I don't play AION or Wildstar so I can't comment on those since I don't know how they work.

I do play WoW. It doesn't even have player housing so it's not relevant though if you want to press the point, Blizzard has taken away things from the player base even if they were subscribed and those items had no impact on game play that was being adjusted. Ask anyone who had gone to the effort of earning Keymaster back in Wrath just to lose it all when Blizzard decided that keys were not only unnecessary but they shouldn't even exist anymore and everything related (other than the instances) was stripped from the game as if they had never existed. Ask players who were partway through epic and legendary quest chains when those were removed from the game so they were left with nothing for their efforts other than worthless quest items for quests that no longer existed.

I haven't played LotRO in a couple of years so I don't know if it's changed since but if you didn't log in and pay the housing monthly maintenance fee (or failed to have enough game currency when it was due), you'd lose your house so another player could buy it.

The weird thing is that you keep refer to losing content just because you unsub. You're not losing access to housing system content just because you unsub for a while. It's not a one-time only opportunity and then you never get to do it again.

Apartments are still part of the housing system and you can't lose your apartment unless you specifically relinquish it. FC rooms are still part of the housing system and you can't lose yours unless you're removed from the FC or relinquish it. You do get a chance to buy a house again subject to availability on the world you've chosen to play on. The content is still there for you to participate in.

Have you lost items that you had acquired as a result of participating in the content? Yes, but that's a known risk of the system and you have the ability not to participate in the system if you object to such loss.

[Minerva-Redwater]

I like the relocation policy, gives the people the opportunity who were forced to buy crappy plots an opportunity to get a better one, you're just salty because your friend didn't get it tbh.