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    Cylla's Avatar
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    Cry all you want but it fair.
    If your friend couldn't afford a small house to sit in and wait until a plot she wanted came open and have the gil for that, you're friend not putting enough effort into wanting that house. It easy, like seriously stupid easy, to make gil in this game. I've went through 1 small, to 1 medium, to 1 large to which I then lost because I couldn't play. Only got half my gil back from that large. Moved off my old server and bought another medium on new server. In total, that had to been a good 70-80mil if not more right there. I currently have 34.4mil after all that. If your friend wanted it that bad, she'd bought a small anywhere, made the gil back up and plus some to buy the plot she really wanted when it was open.

    Sorry, but that how this game works. As others said, it how this system works and it never going to change. SE just going to keep throwing band aid fixes over the actual problem. Live with it or not. The smart one's will always beat you to the punch.
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    "Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. That's why they pretend. That's why they hide the truth. And that's why they lie."

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    Minato Angelo
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    Going by how people are saying the current housing system is good and that relocation is a good feature(they aren't in any way shape or form) you aren't going to get any meaningful responses. The relocation system is terrible but sadly if you want a house in shiro your gonna most likely need to use that. With the invisible timer and anyone able to relocate your gonna need to bite the bullet and buy a meh house in some area you dont like than relocate if a shiro home is open. Hey at least you have homes I guess and arent fighting 50 other people for one home because of the lack of housing wards on bigger servers /shrug.
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorrowsEnd View Post
    Going by how people are saying the current housing system is good and that relocation is a good feature(they aren't in any way shape or form) you aren't going to get any meaningful responses. The relocation system is terrible but sadly if you want a house in shiro your gonna most likely need to use that. With the invisible timer and anyone able to relocate your gonna need to bite the bullet and buy a meh house in some area you dont like than relocate if a shiro home is open. Hey at least you have homes I guess and arent fighting 50 other people for one home because of the lack of housing wards on bigger servers /shrug.
    Do you actually read what people say? Or do you like making stuff up?
    What part of what I said or anyone else for that matter that it's good?
    If you've been paying attention...and you've bloody well not have....you'd see that we've been saying its an improvement. Its not good..its not perfect...but its better than what we had before.

    You people are utterly terrible....the ignorance is astounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Do you actually read what people say? Or do you like making stuff up?
    What part of what I said or anyone else for that matter that it's good?
    If you've been paying attention...and you've bloody well not have....you'd see that we've been saying its an improvement. Its not good..its not perfect...but its better than what we had before.

    You people are utterly terrible....the ignorance is astounding.
    Before you throw the word ignorance you'd might actually wanna make sure your not talking out of your ass. Also improvement to what the system is bad in some cases worse than before. The relocation feature completely contradicts this "invisible timer" thats put in place. Remove the feature and the system is still going to be awful, a turds a turd but at least its a shiny turd I guess but at least you don't wait x amount of hours just to have someone walk up and bypass the timer. Its a royal rumble (depending on your server) without the chance of interference. 5.0 is the only chance SE has to redeem this housing system instead of putting on a band-aid and say we're done!
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorrowsEnd View Post
    Before you throw the word ignorance you'd might actually wanna make sure your not talking out of your ass. Also improvement to what the system is bad in some cases worse than before. The relocation feature completely contradicts this "invisible timer" thats put in place. Remove the feature and the system is still going to be awful, a turds a turd but at least its a shiny turd I guess but at least you don't wait x amount of hours just to have someone walk up and bypass the timer. Its a royal rumble (depending on your server) without the chance of interference. 5.0 is the only chance SE has to redeem this housing system instead of putting on a band-aid and say we're done!
    People on Balmung sure love using the word turd (and synonyms for it) quite often while players on other worlds don't. Perhaps playing on a different world would improve your attitude?

    Relocation is not an issue because it does not consume the net amount of available houses. It just changes the location of what is available. It does not contradict the timer at all.

    Stamp your feet all you want but you could have a medium by my alt's FC house right now if you really wanted a house that badly. The one directly across has been available for almost a month now so it's close to hitting max devaluation (current at 11 mill as of this moment). The one to the side and just downhill has been available for two weeks. There's no timer holding anyone back from buying those or the 8 smalls available just in that one subdivision. There's plenty of available housing here. If you really want a house that bad, the only thing stopping you...

    Is you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    People on Balmung sure love using the word turd (and synonyms for it) quite often while players on other worlds don't. Perhaps playing on a different world would improve your attitude?
    Wow, that's quite the reach. Is there anything Balmung will not be mysteriously blamed for?

    Anyways, it's lame but there is nothing you can do about it now. Though I will say for anyone that thinks the advice of taking any random plot available first and then relocating is really common knowledge, only a tiny, tiny percentage of players visit the forums or outside fansites, so they may not have even thought of that. They may not have even read the housing guide. Then when they see a relocater plop on top of a plot they were waiting for, perhaps even hours, they understandably get upset because they didn't have the knowledge to prevent this, which makes them come to the forums to complain.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    People on Balmung sure love using the word turd (and synonyms for it) quite often while players on other worlds don't. Perhaps playing on a different world would improve your attitude?

    Relocation is not an issue because it does not consume the net amount of available houses. It just changes the location of what is available. It does not contradict the timer at all.

    Stamp your feet all you want but you could have a medium by my alt's FC house right now if you really wanted a house that badly. The one directly across has been available for almost a month now so it's close to hitting max devaluation (current at 11 mill as of this moment). The one to the side and just downhill has been available for two weeks. There's no timer holding anyone back from buying those or the 8 smalls available just in that one subdivision. There's plenty of available housing here. If you really want a house that bad, the only thing stopping you...

    Is you.
    I love how you instantly throw Balmung then throw shade at me for wanting to be on a server I have friends on. Lets blame the people and not blame the company who's still running on the worst mmo code (1.0), who made the worst housing system which cannot fit the demand of some servers. If I really wanted a home I could leave the server that wasn't my point though. I have an alt on louisoix theirs some homes, but my point was that at least the op has open homes and doesn't have to fight 10-20-30 people to get one and on top of that prey someone doesn't relocate making you spend all the time for nothing. It does also contradict the timer because you can have someone wait x hours whos ready to buy the home then just have someone relocate? The timer system is suppose to not have players resell homes and give more people the chance at getting one. Having an ability to just take the home ruins the fairness for others as they've wasted their time and have to go find the home that was relocated and repeat its a pinball effect.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorrowsEnd View Post
    Before you throw the word ignorance you'd might actually wanna make sure your not talking out of your ass. Also improvement to what the system is bad in some cases worse than before. The relocation feature completely contradicts this "invisible timer" thats put in place. Remove the feature and the system is still going to be awful, a turds a turd but at least its a shiny turd I guess but at least you don't wait x amount of hours just to have someone walk up and bypass the timer. Its a royal rumble (depending on your server) without the chance of interference. 5.0 is the only chance SE has to redeem this housing system instead of putting on a band-aid and say we're done!
    So what your saying is your going to quit when 5.0 comes out if SE doesn't fix housing YOUR way?
    Whose talking out of whose ass again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    So what your saying is your going to quit when 5.0 comes out if SE doesn't fix housing YOUR way?
    Whose talking out of whose ass again?
    Who said I was gonna quit? And how is it my way? You mean people wanting a better housing system? Which has been expressed on many post on here,reddit etc. Instead of picking words do the proper research. What I meant by 5.0 is the only chance is that SE needs to make a huge Improvement givin the budget they get for 5.0 to make housing a better experience. Look at how other mmos do it, actually brainstorm ideas on improvements make sure things work instead of more wards with band aid fixes. Show they've listened to feedback from long time fans who actually come up with good ideas.
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorrowsEnd View Post
    Going by how people are saying the current housing system is good and that relocation is a good feature(they aren't in any way shape or form) you aren't going to get any meaningful responses. The relocation system is terrible but sadly if you want a house in shiro your gonna most likely need to use that. With the invisible timer and anyone able to relocate your gonna need to bite the bullet and buy a meh house in some area you dont like than relocate if a shiro home is open. Hey at least you have homes I guess and arent fighting 50 other people for one home because of the lack of housing wards on bigger servers /shrug.
    Some posters have countered the OP that the current allowance for relocations to bypass the timer is fair as it is a wash in regards to available housing but nobody has said it is good. Most posts have also been helpful in relating the best way to obtain a house under the new rules.
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