Housing relocation is crap!

[Cylla]

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Speak for yourself? I never said this crappy system is perfect/good/best sh*t ever. In fact, I've been fighting the god damn system since housing was released. I just know when to give up and accept the fact that all SE ever going to do is throw a band aid over the actual problem rather then do it right and fairly for everyone. Do you think I like it when SE "twisting" my arm and forcing me to keep sub just so I can keep my house that I worked my ass off for (just like anyone else who got one)? I don't like it one bit. I don't like the idea of something I worked for and earned to be taken away just because I stop playing for a month or two while content is dry or that life happens. I think it utter bullsh*t that the demo system in place at all. I think it bs that this whole system out to punish every player who wants/has a house just because of SE own mistake.

But who am I to argue anymore. Not like SE really listening. Limited this, limited that, blah, blah, blah, not enough resources, blah, blah, blah.
It just how it is and we have to learn to accept what is and that SE not going to fix it or actually do something about it and at this point the only thing that could speak for us is our wallets and since nobody is going to stop paying their subs, well guess what? Learn to live with the bs system we have.

If someone not willing to use the system like everyone else to get what they want, don't come crying here. OP story kept changing although this. First her friend knew, then she didn't. Either way, for months it been talked about. If you want that dream house, your going to have to work your way up to it or otherwise deal with the slim to 0 chance of getting that plot you wanted if it open.

[Sotaris]

I don't like the idea of something I worked for and earned to be taken away just because I stop playing for a month or two while content is dry or that life happens. I think it utter bullsh*t that the demo system in place at all. I think it bs that this whole system out to punish every player who wants/has a house just because of SE own mistake.

Demolition is a good addition. Even if you go away for 1 month (30 days) you're still good, 1.5 month (45 days) is when you lose your house and you get multiple warnings.

If we didn't have demolition in place, we'd just have full wards with inactive players. I don't want that again.

[Cylla]

Demolition is a good addition. Even if you go away for 1 month (30 days) you're still good, 1.5 month (45 days) is when you lose your house and you get multiple warnings.

If we didn't have demolition in place, we'd just have full wards with inactive players. I don't want that again.

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off. I'm on Goblin (I left Balmung actually just a few weeks ago), and there is a ton of houses open. No large, but handful of mediums and a ton of smalls. Two M opened in Shiro the other day, one still up for sale.

I've been on the end of the whole demo ordeal. I lost my large that I worked my ass off for due to life happening, it whatever, but it still shitty in the end. It was on Balmung so I just shrugged, knew I wasn't getting anything ever again on that server and decided to pack up and leave.

Point is, nobody should have to lose content just because they want to take a break when content is dry or if life happens. Tell me a game that take something away from you when you stop paying your sub? To my knowledge, there isn't an MMO out there that does that. It sure as hell shouldn't be like that here, not in this age of MMO's. And I mean it not just housing either, glamour system broken and limited, storage is still horrible, and the list goes on to all kinds of little things. If they couldn't have met the demands of all their player base when it came to housing, they should've never released it until they could. We'd not be here right now if they had and there be no need for a demo timer, buy timer, etc.

Again though it like I said, it is what it is and we're being punished for their errors.

Edit - I just want to add on the whole multiple warning thing. If I remember correctly not long after my house got demo, and yes, I did get the warnings but again, life happens and there was nothing I could do about it... SE screwed some people by not sending out warnings of their timer running down. Honestly, imo, I wouldn't even trust SE to send those multiple warnings or send them on time. I've heard cases of where people got the emails late.
As for wards also being inactive, they are no matter what. Even coming from Balmung, I rarely saw people in my ward.. Goblet I can understand but LB, even when I had my large after the relocation/new buying went in, I very rarely saw people about.

[NephthysVasudan]

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Sorry...but I'm going to be the evil Au Ra and tell you to "get over it"

You get 45 days.
45 DAYS....over a month....to step into your house... ONCE....to reset the clock.
For a limited resource...that is more than generous.

If it was so valuable to you...so important...I would think you'd bother to take care of your "precious" hard worked house.

But nope..you come here complaining about YOUR mistake.

Makes total sense.

Real life is important yes...but don't take it out on the system because you can't prioritize your life to your standards.
Make all the excuses you want....you had plenty of time to take care of it.

Bottom line - the house wasn't nearly as important to you as you made it out to be now was it?

The system is perfect in terms of recovery....people should take more responsibility for limited resources in game.
If they can't handle that...they shouldn't have access to it in the first place.

Yeah..life happens...but stop being a child in blaming the game for your inability to manage time.

[Sotaris]

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off.

So let see if i understand, you want demo on a busy server such as Balmung, but on a small server you don't? Huh?

Say all larges are being taken by players, not FC. They quit the game. Their larges will never be available for FC or other players. How is that fair?

I understand and can agree to some extent about losing your stuff but bottom line is you get 45 days to enter your house, that's fair i think, even if you have to stop logging in a for a time.

[Jojoya]

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Smaller servers can and do have this problem. It's how I lost my first house when I had to take an unexpected break prior to Stormblood's release. Where there had been a couple of dozen houses available when I stopped playing, there was nothing when I got back. Even when Shirogane was later added, I still couldn't get another house even though I was looking at Goblet since that's where my first house had been and where I knew my chances were best.

The only reason it's not a problem right now is because of the 4.2 ward addition. That was an additional 2880 houses on each world. Considering Coeurl is down to about 600 available houses right now (that could be off, I haven't in a few weeks), that's still over 2200 players and FCs that wouldn't haven't housing if the new wards hadn't been added.

Now imagine what will happen when the new expansion is released and there's a swarm of returning players not to mention new players. What's currently available will disappear all over again and once more there will be players looking for housing that can't get it.

Auto-demo is needed as long as housing is a limited resource. No limited resource should ever be controlled by people who have quit playing when it could be going to those who are actively playing.

You know when you buy that a house is something you're only allowed if you maintain an active sub. Don't buy it if you're not certain you're going to maintain your sub. Get an apartment instead. You can't lose an apartment if you stop playing for a while.

No game is ever able to meet all the demands of all their players. You're living in a dreamworld if you think game developers can do it. For all that can be accomplished with technology, there are still limitations and still resources to be considered. By all means make suggestions for things you think will improve the game experience but in the long run you need to accept the game as what the dev team provides. If you feel the game isn't living up to your expectations when it could, find a different game to play.

[Claviusnex]

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Which is why I think the demolition timer should be disabled as long a player is subscribed. The whole purpose of the subscription is to have access to server resources. As long as I'm paying it shouldn't matter to SE whether I login or not. Once a subscription expires then it is reasonable for a timer to start. I'd even be willing to shorten the timer interval to prevent people from gaming subscriptions just to reset the counter.

[Sotaris]

Misleading title, relocation works like intended.
Sorry about your friend but everyone who wants a house shouldn't be so picky and just buy whatever is available and Then relocate when a plot present itself that you'd want more.

That's the reason I currently own a large house in a less favorable area.

Guys i didnt ask your advice what she can do... She knows and i also told her to do that... She says she wont support it cause its stupid and wrong. For what reason is this system build like this... This is unfair. The new guy who9 wants a house must have first his chance to get one and then the ones who relocate. This system is wrong and they dont respect the players.

Would you preferred the old system where people hoard a plot and sell it for 1000% profit?

Congrats. You didnt get anything straight... That's not what happened. Guys i didnt come here to vex you. And you cannot change my opinion either. THe hidden timer must be for all players the same. Either they have somewhere else plot or not. Thats my opinion. Some people dont have money to buy 2 plots just to have a chance in Shirogane. And if you tell me settle in one of the others... tell that to all the people who rush to get a house here when one opens up. I have a cottage in shirogane i am good. But my friend was 4 hours looking on a board until someone smart@$@ came and took that in a instance. if that is fair give up.......Let me leave in my dreamworld.

Why are you posting all this on a forum if you do not want people's comments and give suggestions to get around it? Relocation is fair game and probably the best thing they added to the current housing system. It lightyears better than in 4.1 and Shirogane opened. If you were around by then trying to obtain a house you would agree.

[NephthysVasudan]

Misleading title, relocation works like intended. + Good stuff

Your forgetting that people actually bought entire wards.
Something that can't happen anymore.

Something SE should take action on to balance the scales further imho. (and its just an opinion)

[Sotaris]

Your forgetting that people actually bought entire wards.
Something that can't happen anymore.

Something SE should take action on to balance the scales further imho. (and its just an opinion)

You're*

No, i'm not forgetting it was a big mess pre adjustment. It's not flawless but i still stand by to say system is heck more fair now compared to 6 months ago.