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    Housing relocation is crap!

    I am on Kugane and checking open plots on shirogane for a friend. I immediately call him, we go and staying 4 hours alone looking at a board... hoping for hidden timer to end. Then after 4 hours of standing there..... a guy comes up and relocates after buying as he said a crappy plot in goblet... Very nice square... very nice. So fair.
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    Your friend had the opportunity to do the same. It is posted all over the best way to get a house in preferred wards after the demolition changes is to buy any small house you can then relocate to a more a desirable lot when one opens up.
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    Everyone knows the best way to get around this is just to buy any house, probably the cheapest you can find open with a timer that will alow you to buy, then find the one you want after via relocation. it's cheap, easy to do, and avoids this problem. The person you are complaining about actually did it the smart way, the way you should do it.
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    Guys i didnt ask your advice what she can do... She knows and i also told her to do that... She says she wont support it cause its stupid and wrong. For what reason is this system build like this... This is unfair. The new guy who9 wants a house must have first his chance to get one and then the ones who relocate. This system is wrong and they dont respect the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animang1 View Post
    Guys i didnt ask your advice what she can do... She knows and i also told her to do that... She says she wont support it cause its stupid and wrong. For what reason is this system build like this... This is unfair. The new guy who9 wants a house must have first his chance to get one and then the ones who relocate. This system is wrong and they dont respect the players.
    It is fair. It works the same way for every player. No one is treated differently. It's the very definition of fair.

    The "new guy" who wanted a house had his chance by buying any house. You know, just like real life. Most people can't afford their dream home when they first start out so they buy what they can get and the equity they build (plus increases in income) allow them to get their dream home later.

    Keep in mind that a lot of players settled for owning any house while waiting for their dream plot to open up. They've been waiting a lot longer for it than your friend. Why should your friend have first chance when she hasn't been waiting as long as they have?

    She could have bought any house at any time just so she could have a house then relocate when something became available. She's choosing not to do it.

    Her loss and she will continue to lose out.

    The only objection I have to relocation is that it keeps the resellers in business but SE will probably never manage to get rid of that problem unless they moved to a completely instanced housing system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
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    The only objection I have to relocation is that it keeps the resellers in business but SE will probably never manage to get rid of that problem unless they moved to a completely instanced housing system.
    The timer change actually makes it harder to resell as there is now less of a chance that the buyer will be able to pickup the plot once it is relinquished. Resellers can only own one house per account, per server so they lose a lot being forced into a serial sales model. The only guaranteed way to sell houses is via an FC house and again that is limited to one at a time. Add this to the excess housing on servers with midsized or small populations and it really has put a damper on resellers and speculators. Yes a fully instanced housing system would solve many of the FF XIV housing problems.
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    Let me get this straight.
    Your friend wanted a house.
    You tried to get one.
    Someone relocated and was nice enough to tell you they had a plot in gobblet.
    A plot that was free and open to buy...and likely cheaper as shiro tends to be very costly.
    So instead of getting that plot...you decided to be stuck up high and mighty and call the system not fair.

    Got it.
    Good luck on your housing venture.
    As everyone has said...you buy your first house at an open plot...then wait for a more desirable location at a later date.

    The systems not perfect...but its far better than it was before.
    I suggest you spend a little less time complaining...and a little more time "doing"

    At least you could have gotten a plot...servers that are overpopulated like balmung are not so lucky.

    Yet here you are..throwing a tantrum over a shiny plot in shirogane.
    Makes total sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Let me get this straight.
    Your friend wanted a house.
    You tried to get one.
    Someone relocated and was nice enough to tell you they had a plot in gobblet.
    A plot that was free and open to buy...and likely cheaper as shiro tends to be very costly.
    They used up a good chunk of time in a game waiting for a plot and someone walked up and took it on a whim. Anyone would be frustrated at that. It was nice of the person to tell them where the other plot was, but a newly opened plot isn't cheaper and now has a brand new random timer rolling on it. The system is better, but I fully agree that if there's a timer, everyone that wants the plot should have to wait it out.
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    Congrats. You didnt get anything straight... That's not what happened. Guys i didnt come here to vex you. And you cannot change my opinion either. THe hidden timer must be for all players the same. Either they have somewhere else plot or not. Thats my opinion. Some people dont have money to buy 2 plots just to have a chance in Shirogane. And if you tell me settle in one of the others... tell that to all the people who rush to get a house here when one opens up. I have a cottage in shirogane i am good. But my friend was 4 hours looking on a board until someone smart@$@ came and took that in a instance. if that is fair give up.......Let me leave in my dreamworld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It is fair. It works the same way for every player. No one is treated differently. It's the very definition of fair.

    Keep in mind that a lot of players settled for owning any house while waiting for their dream plot to open up. They've been waiting a lot longer for it than your friend. Why should your friend have first chance when she hasn't been waiting as long as they have?
    Exactly... I had to relocate TWICE to get the house I wanted. First I had a small in the Mist, then a grade 5 medium in the mist... then finally managed to relocate to a beachside grade 1 medium in Shiro (and spent quite a bit of cash to do all of this).

    This is probably the best solution they've got right now, though, unless they go to fully instanced housing.
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