Housing relocation is crap!

[SorrowsEnd]

Only chance you say?
What are you? A Psychic? Please..don't make me laugh.

Your words..not mine.

Again your picking words out and not actually reading further it's like talking to a brick wall.

[NephthysVasudan]

Again your picking words out and not actually reading further it's like talking to a brick wall.

Making excuses for something you said? How predictable.

[SorrowsEnd]

Making excuses for something you said? How predictable.

I've literally stated in further context what I meant if you can't read than unfortunately this is going nowhere have a nice day.

[Cylla]

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Speak for yourself? I never said this crappy system is perfect/good/best sh*t ever. In fact, I've been fighting the god damn system since housing was released. I just know when to give up and accept the fact that all SE ever going to do is throw a band aid over the actual problem rather then do it right and fairly for everyone. Do you think I like it when SE "twisting" my arm and forcing me to keep sub just so I can keep my house that I worked my ass off for (just like anyone else who got one)? I don't like it one bit. I don't like the idea of something I worked for and earned to be taken away just because I stop playing for a month or two while content is dry or that life happens. I think it utter bullsh*t that the demo system in place at all. I think it bs that this whole system out to punish every player who wants/has a house just because of SE own mistake.

But who am I to argue anymore. Not like SE really listening. Limited this, limited that, blah, blah, blah, not enough resources, blah, blah, blah.
It just how it is and we have to learn to accept what is and that SE not going to fix it or actually do something about it and at this point the only thing that could speak for us is our wallets and since nobody is going to stop paying their subs, well guess what? Learn to live with the bs system we have.

If someone not willing to use the system like everyone else to get what they want, don't come crying here. OP story kept changing although this. First her friend knew, then she didn't. Either way, for months it been talked about. If you want that dream house, your going to have to work your way up to it or otherwise deal with the slim to 0 chance of getting that plot you wanted if it open.

[Jojoya]

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Players on Balmung get shade because of the attitudes they display and their complaints about situations of their own making. No one forced you to play on Balmung. Your friends would still be your friends even if you played on another server.

If you think the housing in SE is so bad, then provide examples of housing systems in other games that you feel are much better and state why. Don't bring up instanced housing because we already have instanced housing. It's called apartments. If you bring up the games where it costs additional real money on top of standard game fees to get anything better than a shabby apartment sized dwelling, you'll find few people agreeing that it's a better system. You could be thankful you're not playing a game like WoW where there is no housing and likely never will be.

There is available housing out there. It's not SE's fault that players aren't using it.

There is no contradiction in the timer. There are just as many houses available after someone relocates as there were before. The only time the amount of available housing decreases is when a new buyer makes a purchase. The system does cut down on resellers (though the one personal/one FC house per world restriction does have a greater impact).

The system is fair. Everyone who wants to buy has an equal chance to be the one standing at a placard when the timer expires. Just because only one person can win out of those competing for a limited resource doesn't make the system unfair.

[Sotaris]

I don't like the idea of something I worked for and earned to be taken away just because I stop playing for a month or two while content is dry or that life happens. I think it utter bullsh*t that the demo system in place at all. I think it bs that this whole system out to punish every player who wants/has a house just because of SE own mistake.

Demolition is a good addition. Even if you go away for 1 month (30 days) you're still good, 1.5 month (45 days) is when you lose your house and you get multiple warnings.

If we didn't have demolition in place, we'd just have full wards with inactive players. I don't want that again.

[Cylla]

Demolition is a good addition. Even if you go away for 1 month (30 days) you're still good, 1.5 month (45 days) is when you lose your house and you get multiple warnings.

If we didn't have demolition in place, we'd just have full wards with inactive players. I don't want that again.

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off. I'm on Goblin (I left Balmung actually just a few weeks ago), and there is a ton of houses open. No large, but handful of mediums and a ton of smalls. Two M opened in Shiro the other day, one still up for sale.

I've been on the end of the whole demo ordeal. I lost my large that I worked my ass off for due to life happening, it whatever, but it still shitty in the end. It was on Balmung so I just shrugged, knew I wasn't getting anything ever again on that server and decided to pack up and leave.

Point is, nobody should have to lose content just because they want to take a break when content is dry or if life happens. Tell me a game that take something away from you when you stop paying your sub? To my knowledge, there isn't an MMO out there that does that. It sure as hell shouldn't be like that here, not in this age of MMO's. And I mean it not just housing either, glamour system broken and limited, storage is still horrible, and the list goes on to all kinds of little things. If they couldn't have met the demands of all their player base when it came to housing, they should've never released it until they could. We'd not be here right now if they had and there be no need for a demo timer, buy timer, etc.

Again though it like I said, it is what it is and we're being punished for their errors.

Edit - I just want to add on the whole multiple warning thing. If I remember correctly not long after my house got demo, and yes, I did get the warnings but again, life happens and there was nothing I could do about it... SE screwed some people by not sending out warnings of their timer running down. Honestly, imo, I wouldn't even trust SE to send those multiple warnings or send them on time. I've heard cases of where people got the emails late.
As for wards also being inactive, they are no matter what. Even coming from Balmung, I rarely saw people in my ward.. Goblet I can understand but LB, even when I had my large after the relocation/new buying went in, I very rarely saw people about.

[NephthysVasudan]

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Sorry...but I'm going to be the evil Au Ra and tell you to "get over it"

You get 45 days.
45 DAYS....over a month....to step into your house... ONCE....to reset the clock.
For a limited resource...that is more than generous.

If it was so valuable to you...so important...I would think you'd bother to take care of your "precious" hard worked house.

But nope..you come here complaining about YOUR mistake.

Makes total sense.

Real life is important yes...but don't take it out on the system because you can't prioritize your life to your standards.
Make all the excuses you want....you had plenty of time to take care of it.

Bottom line - the house wasn't nearly as important to you as you made it out to be now was it?

The system is perfect in terms of recovery....people should take more responsibility for limited resources in game.
If they can't handle that...they shouldn't have access to it in the first place.

Yeah..life happens...but stop being a child in blaming the game for your inability to manage time.

[Sotaris]

Disagree. For servers like Balmung, sure. The demo should be in place for them but for smaller servers that don't have this issue, I think it should honestly be turned off.

So let see if i understand, you want demo on a busy server such as Balmung, but on a small server you don't? Huh?

Say all larges are being taken by players, not FC. They quit the game. Their larges will never be available for FC or other players. How is that fair?

I understand and can agree to some extent about losing your stuff but bottom line is you get 45 days to enter your house, that's fair i think, even if you have to stop logging in a for a time.

[Ryaz]

It is fair. It works the same way for every player. No one is treated differently. It's the very definition of fair.

Keep in mind that a lot of players settled for owning any house while waiting for their dream plot to open up. They've been waiting a lot longer for it than your friend. Why should your friend have first chance when she hasn't been waiting as long as they have?

Exactly... I had to relocate TWICE to get the house I wanted. First I had a small in the Mist, then a grade 5 medium in the mist... then finally managed to relocate to a beachside grade 1 medium in Shiro (and spent quite a bit of cash to do all of this).

This is probably the best solution they've got right now, though, unless they go to fully instanced housing.