Sexual harassment

[Calibur097]

Just a question: Has this case been sent to the proper authorities? Is there a lawsuit against the abuser so a court of law can see the case and determine the proper judgement? If it only stays in a game news article and the case not handled by the authorities, then in my opinion, it will do little to nothing in stoping this behavior.

[BillyKaplan]

Just a question: Has this case been sent to the proper authorities? Is there a lawsuit against the abuser so a court of law can see the case and determine the proper judgement? If it only stays in a game news article and the case not handled by the authorities, then in my opinion, it will do little to nothing in stoping this behavior.

That's debatable and really up to the particular case. Oftentimes the culprit won't receive an appropriate sentence because maybe he's white, from a good upbringing, a guy to start off with, has some sob story in his past, straight A college student or what not... and the fact this was all done over the internet likely won't help.
Public shaming and the tarnishing of one's reputation are much more effective forms of punishment when it comes to that sort of thing, even if I agree that not all cases are such cut and dry when it comes to evidence like this case.

[Alleo]

Just a question: Has this case been sent to the proper authorities? Is there a lawsuit against the abuser so a court of law can see the case and determine the proper judgement? If it only stays in a game news article and the case not handled by the authorities, then in my opinion, it will do little to nothing in stoping this behavior.

I am not 100% sure but I did read on the reddit thread that maybe some of them are planning to go to a law court with this. In the end this might not be so easy depending on the evidence, the costs and so on. But maybe if they can all get together they might stand a chance.

[Kerwin]

I am not 100% sure but I did read on the reddit thread that maybe some of them are planning to go to a law court with this. In the end this might not be so easy depending on the evidence, the costs and so on. But maybe if they can all get together they might stand a chance.

There's not enough evidence and a lawyer would never take up the case. Physical hard evidence is needed. Not chat logs from a discord.

[BillyKaplan]

There's not enough evidence and a lawyer would never take up the case.

1. Are you a lawyer?
2. The article obviously hasn't shown everything there is. You can't tell based on that alone that there isn't enough.

[DDkiki]

1. Are you a lawyer?
2. The article obviously hasn't shown everything there is. You can't tell based on that alone that there isn't enough.

Article only showed a lot of water and nothing else with almost zero evidences to even believe all this drama.

[BillyKaplan]

Article only showed a lot of water and nothing else with almost zero evidences to even believe all this drama.

The article showed the guy admitting to being an emotional abuser of a predator but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Enla]

The article showed the guy admitting to being an emotional abuser of a predator but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not to mention given the fact that some of the accusers have decided to go forward with a case, they probably were advised by whatever lawyer they've retained not to show everything on the net. We know that the situation broke into the real world so there's bound to be phone logs as well.

[DDkiki]

The article showed the guy admitting to being an emotional abuser of a predator but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ehh, no? He clearly denies it.

"I'd very much like to make it clear that I never abused anyone"

"Even though I vehemently deny 'abusing' anyone."

[Alleo]

There's not enough evidence and a lawyer would never take up the case. Physical hard evidence is needed. Not chat logs from a discord.

We simply dont know how much evidence they have because they surely would not talk about every single one of them. Some might be a bit too private for the whole internet to know.

You also have the option of blocking before the damage is done too. If said "abuser" makes multiple accounts (which on FFXIV would be quite a boon to SquareEnix) you simply block each one. It is much more effort on their end to make an account than for you to block and they will move onto another "victim". My point is, there exists tools in almost every medium of social media and game to ignore someone. People should be held accountable for themselves. Both "abusers" and "victims" on the internet.

And what if that person you blacklisted goes around and see whom you hang out with, or in which FC you are and try to turn people against you? What can one do if its opinion against opinion and you cant prove stuff because nothing ever happened but the other person tells lies about them? I mean this even happened in that case..that the person who abused was such a nice guy on the outside that people did not believe the other person and went against them...and heck you yourself dont even need to tell that person about personal information..what if you have a naive rl friend that is also friends with them and they tell them your name? Suddenly its getting real.