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    Rogatum's Avatar
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    My question is what more could SE do to protect players from this? May sound cold but how is this anyone else's problem beside those it affects. SE has put tools in place use them while sure at times they can only be used after the fact but what more can SE or anyone else beside those that are involved can do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    My question is what more could SE do to protect players from this? May sound cold but how is this anyone else's problem beside those it affects. SE has put tools in place use them while sure at times they can only be used after the fact but what more can SE or anyone else beside those that are involved can do?
    They could fix this by being more proactive about the reports that do come in. I mentioned the stalking story on the last page and how it was never resolved in spite of /MANY/ people reporting this individual and evidence collected against them. Last I checked that player happily moved servers because the community here had to step in and actually let people know what was going on after many months of using those self same 'tools'. Though that didn't stop them from still going around and telling anyone who would listen how /they/ were the victim and how mean the person they were stalking was for finally breaking and posting the logs after nothing was done. Even I got a message and let me tell you it was a trip to try and be drug into someone's emotional manipulation tactics.

    I've seen and had to pass on similar information as an FC leader because there were multiple bad apples running around, hopping from guild to guild and evading any punishment in spite of reports. All to the point that the community itself started to having to compile it's own blacklists and you can bet there were several sexual predators whose names were forwarded to me along with the evidence against them, all of whom were still there and still abusing people months later in spite of being reported. When the community has to do the job of a company, there is an issue.
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    People be thirsty. It's not just in MMOs. I blame Tinder
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    My question is what more could SE do to protect players from this? May sound cold but how is this anyone else's problem beside those it affects. SE has put tools in place use them while sure at times they can only be used after the fact but what more can SE or anyone else beside those that are involved can do?
    At some point it falls on us the community to decide we arnt going to put up with such behavior... we must decide to cut them out of party finders, linkshells, exclude them from statics... we need to let people know that if you're going to act like a scumbag that we the community will not accept them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    At some point it falls on us the community to decide we arnt going to put up with such behavior... we must decide to cut them out of party finders, linkshells, exclude them from statics... we need to let people know that if you're going to act like a scumbag that we the community will not accept them...
    I've always wondered how do you police unseen behavior though. Harrasment can be hard to prove if not overly obvious.
    Then theres the people who intentionally make false claims to hurt other peoples ability to play, knowing the system is rigid.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by CainCrimson View Post
    I've always wondered how do you police unseen behavior though. Harrasment can be hard to prove if not overly obvious.
    Then theres the people who intentionally make false claims to hurt other peoples ability to play, knowing the system is rigid.
    You don't. Unseen behavior is usually carried out in private with an express goal of driving the target offline, to suicide, etc. Even things like "for fun" twitter accounts sometimes have the nefarious goal of directing hate at people by removing context.
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    It’s not as simple as “it’s just a game. Block and move on.” A lot of the time, the person from the game become a part of their real personal life. Nude photos were shared, one even lived with the harasser. While I personally believe it’s a bad idea to share nude photos to ANYONE, I could understand not leaving in fear of such a personal part of them being shared with god knows who. And trying to getting away from someone you live with or are staying with isn’t easy when you have no way out (money, vehicle), especially when home is far away. This kind of behavior should not be brushed off so easily. People should be punished for it. It. Is. Not. Okay. Good for you if you think you can handle it differently and not have things crash and burn around you. For others, it is not so easy. Not everyone is like you, and expecting people to handle things like you or else you’ll laugh or not take their situation seriously, is ridiculous.
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    Been hit on multiple times, i didn't care/respond.
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