A(nother) Secret of the Lily Rework Thread

[Sebazy]

This proposal is just an over-designed "make it work off DPS" suggestion. As I've said in maybe a half dozen threads accross GD and here, the gauges are to point players the correct direction of doing their role/job. DPS is not a core part of the healer's job, hence none of their gauges deal with DPS.

Thematically you're correct, but the gameplay at hand simply doesn't pan out that way. Ghislain's solution has one source of lilies from actual DPS (Dots no less), the other is from any ability, it's certainly making it work off DPS, but it's not focused around that at all. Rather it works nicely off your overall work rate, something with should be encouraged anyhow.

At the end of the day, look at a WHM's raw cast numbers on a random EX primal log, you have to go almost to the bottom of the barrel before you find a WHM that's casting more healing than DPS abilities.

I'm not sure why you think that SE are so massively against healers getting any kind of a DPS bump, if this was the case, AST's malefic change would have been addressed by now. I also find it amusing that whilst you're practically terrified of suggesting any kind of DPS increase, yet are willing to put forward a cooldown reduction that's flat out broken. I don't think we're going to see a Lily change until 5.0 frankly, but I will be surprised if WHM doesn't get a potency bump for 4.4 TBH.

[Ilenya]

I'm not sure why you think that SE are so massively against healers getting any kind of a DPS bump, if this was the case, AST's malefic change would have been addressed by now. I also find it amusing that whilst you're practically terrified of suggesting any kind of DPS increase, yet are willing to put forward a cooldown reduction that's flat out broken. I don't think we're going to see a Lily change until 5.0 frankly, but I will be surprised if WHM doesn't get a potency bump for 4.4 TBH.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't this be a DPS buff anyways just because of Assize? Single cast could shave off 40 seconds on one of your most potent DPS/Healing abilities, and any sort of raidwide damage would let you repeat it nearly infinitely, yes?

[MoroMurasaki]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't this be a DPS buff anyways just because of Assize? Single cast could shave off 40 seconds on one of your most potent DPS/Healing abilities, and any sort of raidwide damage would let you repeat it nearly infinitely, yes?

Thats not the only potential dps increase (if you aren't dead from yanking off the tank of course) because the amount of healing that could be accomplished via these oGCDs that would always be up would ultimately mean less of a need to cast GCD heals. In trying to buff healing this also buffs dps in terms of potential GCD efficency.

Not that the 'developer' of that proposal intended it to be played that way of course. But, just like in the game, dev intention is meaningless if it conflicts with efficency.

Edit: Also I don't want to detract from the OP's original idea. It really is wonderful and doesn't deserve to be derailed by this other nonsense.