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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Gods I was hoping Bozja was in The Burn and the devastation was wrought by Dalamud and not what we got...
    Well we learned quite a while ago there was an area that during the conquest of Orthad showed Solus the damage to the world that a primal could cause and lead to Garlemald's stunch anti primal viewpoint. The burn is the obvious sight.

    As for Bozja, I got the impression it was a bit closer to Ilsibard and frankly I imagine its not much more than a crater unless they have rebuilt it. The entire town was obliterated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
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    I wonder if it could not be Asahi that changed bodies. After all, he's also a Samourai, he's the one that just recently died, and the one who clearly has a grudge against us. Zenos took his own life with a smile on his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Well we learned quite a while ago there was an area that during the conquest of Orthad showed Solus the damage to the world that a primal could cause and lead to Garlemald's stunch anti primal viewpoint. The burn is the obvious sight.

    As for Bozja, I got the impression it was a bit closer to Ilsibard and frankly I imagine its not much more than a crater unless they have rebuilt it. The entire town was obliterated.
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    My opinion :
    I wonder if it could not be Asahi that changed bodies. After all, he's also a Samourai, he's the one that just recently died, and the one who clearly has a grudge against us. Zenos took his own life with a smile on his face.
    I don't really think that's a possibility.

    Asahi didn't have the Echo as far as we know. Plus, the soldier mentions the hunt which was Zenos' entire purpose in life.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyera View Post
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
    Yeah I kinda do have the feeling that all the "we do this because eikons" part is just a cover up or only part of what was happening. They did see primals in Othard but even Alexander did not do anything at all to the landscape. How long was this summon out or how strong was it that it leaves such utter destruction?
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  6. #136
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    Bozja wasn't leveled by a primal. It was leveled during the Meteor Project when the Lunar Transmitter was turned on and Dalamud was "woken up" for the first time. While an entire town got obliterated, the area wasn't the size of a small country. Also, the Metor Project was started after Ala Mhigo was annexed by the Garleans. The Garleans would have found the Burn long before that when they were taking over Othard.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyera View Post
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
    The Burn is way too big to be Bozja. The city was destroyed yes but the Burn is about the size of Doma. Its a huge area.

    I might be wrong but I always suspected Bozja was somewhere between the border of Ilsbard and Othard which would probably be north of the Burn. South of the Burn is almost certainly the areas like Rabanastre. As a trade hub I imagined it having a position similar to Ala Mhigo has for Eorzea.
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  8. #138
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    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
    We don't know when Zenos' body got out of the grave, but it seems to have happened fairly sshortly after being placed there in the firsst place. We already know that nobody checked if the body was still in the grave after it had been vandalized, so it could very likely have been long gone by that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    @DamianFatale: Spoiler tags are just the nice way to help that people can read through this thread even if they did not do every single quest in this patch. Since its not even one week after the patch its quite bad to spoiler like that.
    But what would the purpose of being here even be? Just go finish the content, and come back with your comments.
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