Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.3

Originally Posted by Alleo

@Remedi: Did he truly got scared? I kinda remember that it felt more like he was shocked and maybe a bit angry? So for me it makes sense that he was shocked because he had Zenos face. Also lets not forget that our new Garlean was surprised that we thought that Zenos was death, so he should have arrived at Garlemald quite fast after his death.

I am not saying that we cant be an avater (honestly I believe we are kinda directly a child of her, like created for her purpose thats why we are also not talking about any family) but Elidibus never looked like an Au Ra under that mask, his horns would have been seen at least a bit, the same with the scales. So he cant be like my character for example.

I also believe that the last words of the archbishop are more like "what beast are you to be able to defeat me and my knights with 1000 years of prayers?". It feels more like an enemy that cant believe that they have lost, then him seeing something strange in us. The blackness part was for me more that he was losing his sight thanks to him dying. (But thats just my speculation)

Ye meant shocked. My parallel is to when we met him he was unfazed by anything, he seemed very stern and he never lose compusure even while beign bombed, Elidubus' face must've been something really to shock him, the reason I'm ruling out Zenos in that cutscene is mostly that the body shape doesn't really fit, although that could be for cinematic reasons to make us wonder

The second point is that our light is often commented by primals which is why it rises some questions to me, like it's something that will be revealed later. I mean the new primal saying I now see the extent of that baleful light of yours kinda fit with what other primals have said in the past, so it raises suspicion to our true essence

Originally Posted by Alleo

@DamianFatale: Spoiler tags are just the nice way to help that people can read through this thread even if they did not do every single quest in this patch. Since its not even one week after the patch its quite bad to spoiler like that.

But what would the purpose of being here even be? Just go finish the content, and come back with your comments.

Originally Posted by DamianFatale

But what would the purpose of being here even be? Just go finish the content, and come back with your comments.

Because someone, more so when the thread started, might have finished some content that they wished to discuss but still have other pieces to go through. Its also called being polite.


Anyroad some things from the 24-man raid I haven't seen discussed.

So we have learned that the XIV version of XII's Gabranth is the head of the IVth legion. This has some interesting implications for when we face him due to not only Final Fantasy XII but also Final Fantasy IV.

Gabranth of XII was one of the Judge Magisters of the Archadian military following the invasion of his own home. He had a twin brother, Basch, who would end up joining up with Dalmasca and becoming respected there. After the fall of Nalbina Gabranth would be part of the Archadian plot to kill the Dalmascan king and frame Basch for it which succeded. By the end of the game two years later Basch is still thought of as the "king-slayer" to most people (on top of being thought as dead) and has to take Gabranth's own name and position to have something resembling a normal life again.

Now how does this connect to Gabranth being the legatus of the IVth? In Final Fantasy IV the main playable character is Cecil, a dark knight in the emply of Baron. Between having reservations of the sudden military aggressions of the kingdom he serves to gather the Crystals of Light as well as being tricked into destroying the village of Mist he deserts his post to try and protect rest of the Crystals. The command he once had was then given to a man named Golbez...who at the end of the game was revealed to be his (brainwashed) older brother.

So at some point when we go after the IVth legion we will end up running into a relative of Gabranths, possibly even being the original Gabranth while the IVth is his brother impersonating him. Our character takes the appearance of Gabranth('s armor) when Ba'Gamnan is seeing visions and calls him traitor so we atleast know Gabranth was once again a part of the betrayal of Dalmasca regardless of whether it was as straight as its mentioned or more shadowy stuff in the background.

Also fun fact, IV's final area to explore was the Moon...which if we'll remember is where Elidibus was talking to the Warrior of Darkness at in this game. So that might also come up again in regards to the IVth legion.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was a nobody since Nabriales' vessel was a nobody even though they cared enough to show us his hairs (so have with Igheyorm and Pastharoth, where in the worls has he even run to? I was expecting him coming out by now)

Besides I rewatched the cutscene with minfilia which honestly debunks what I thought anyway

Regarding the aftermath of 4.3

I have a really hard time imagining that Alphinaud is ever going to make it to the capital with the Garleans loyal to Zenos getting in the way. I'm kind of hoping we'll get to go out on a rescue mission into the Burn to retrieve him and meet the Shadowhunter in the process. I also think once Maxima learns just how bad things are as far as the Ascian manipulation goes, he'll probably play a major part in getting us into Garlean territory to do some clean-up.

I'm also curious as to what kind of action we'll end up seeing on the Gyr Abania end of things. Zenos doesn't seem like the sort who'd go trying to stir up unrest amid the ranks of the Resistance and would instead be more straight to the point if he has a score to settle with us. The only reason I could see him making mischief is just to make us hate him more in hopes that it'll make us fight harder.

I've always thought Dalmasca is around here

Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I've always thought Dalmasca is around here

It absolutely is.

Originally Posted by Wandering Dramaturge

The Dalmasca Desert is a vast wasteland in the southern reaches of central Othard, sharing an eastern border with Nagxia. So large is the desert that it is divided into two regions, the Estersands and the Westersands.

The lorebook contains some contradictory information about the location of Dalmasca, as well as some contradictory information about the year of its fall to Garlemald. It's one of those pesky errors that this forum compiled a big thread about. The Wandering Dramaturge's dialogue is likely our most reliable source at this point.

Originally Posted by Keever

It absolutely is.



The lorebook contains some contradictory information about the location of Dalmasca, as well as some contradictory information about the year of its fall to Garlemald. It's one of those pesky errors that this forum compiled a big thread about. The Wandering Dramaturge's dialogue is likely our most reliable source at this point.

I know it's had errors get caught in it before, but the location of Bozja doesn't seem to be one of them. No word yet on whether the entry in the timeline that identifies it in Othard is one such bug, but I can't recall anything in-game that directly contradicts that assertion.

Originally Posted by Jyera

I know it's had errors get caught in it before, but the location of Bozja doesn't seem to be one of them. No word yet on whether the entry in the timeline that identifies it in Othard is one such bug, but I can't recall anything in-game that directly contradicts that assertion.

I was talking about Dalmasca, not Bozja.