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  1. #31
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'd say it needs to happen and if it locks people out of content until they can catch up too bad... For your main job it isn't an issue, get that to 70 first, then afterwards you can unsync one of the HW dungeons repeatedly to get the gear you need for alts (or maybe farm poetics), to get them enough gear to get into the dungeons, even easier if your level 70 shares gear with the alt you're trying to level, then it's 10 runs max. Then they can work their way up with alts. When you read stories of people going into Castrum Abania with say level 1 glam gear (maybe checking out their glam mid queue if it's a genuine accident)... something needs to give. I'd also make it so once your queue pops you must be on the class and right ilvl to accept duty. Then like how you can't change jobs during the "Waiting on others" section, you wouldn't be able to change gear either. If there's one thing I've learned from working retail and tech support...
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  2. #32
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I enjoy those situations, as it makes for fun gameplay in an otherwise face roll game.
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  3. #33
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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    leveling an alt through HW and noticing people really reeeaallly seem like to like to push their unaugmented ironworks gear all the way to 60. Trying to keep an i122 tank standing in the Vault is a doozy.
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  4. #34
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    ViciousArach9's Avatar
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    Cerise Raenelle
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    While it may be faceroll for more experienced players who know all the content, newer players who are still learning how to run certain things should not have to deal with i.e. a tank wearing i55 class gear in the vault.
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  5. #35
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Seriously, why is this not a thing yet?
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
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  6. #36
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ark Vuilocand
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    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    had a tank in bardam's in some level 60 gear and it was an absolute nightmare keeping his squishy self up. (didn't help he didn't stay in tank stance at all either.) please save us from df nightmares like these.
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  7. #37
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    For your main job it isn't an issue, get that to 70 first, then afterwards you can unsync one of the HW dungeons repeatedly to get the gear you need for alts (or maybe farm poetics), to get them enough gear to get into the dungeons, even easier if your level 70 shares gear with the alt you're trying to level, then it's 10 runs max. Then they can work their way up with alts.
    This goes against the "run content with the job you want gear for" mentality that all the people in the alliance raid thread share. Even if we can unsync older dungeon, SB dungeons would still have the problem that you can't get gear for your alt when someone of that job is Need rolling it all whether they need it or not.

    And like I said before, forcing every player in the game to buy vendor/crafted gear every couple of levels by having a very strict item level restriction is an unacceptable solution to me because this problem is not widespread or difficult to begin with. Just kick the people with too low gear, problem solved. Implementing a lenient main stat restriction would be fine and would block out the worst cases of being undergeared.
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  8. #38
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
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    However, for HW and SB dungeons you already get gear for every odd-levelled dungeon you complete, so that's not an issue for the "run content with the job you want gear for" mentality. Only thing I would add to that is being able to get your weapon from the end of the dungeon clear (you don't get that currently). Then you can keep running it with the class you wanna level for the full gear. So yeah, I don't care if it's just 1 person doing it, it's something I feel should be tackled. Even if there were 0 people doing it I'd still advocate fixing it so that people can't decide to do it in the future. And only the ARR dungeons would have that issue (given how ARR gear works, not sure how to fix that one though). I would also mandate that 50/60/70 dungeons require all the relevant job quests complete too to queue for.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. 05-01-2018 01:29 AM

  10. #39
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    One would think the ilvl requirements for parts of the story would apply to the dungeons, but I suppose that’s too much to ask.
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  11. #40
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    This is a hard thing to fix since most players are not going to farm dungeons/buy gear, outside augmented Ironworks/Shire (and to be honest those are enough if everyone knows what they are doing), when the main source of XP are roulettes.
    It's not that hard. Don't let people do Castrum Abania in 260 Shire gear. Done.

    There's a vendor that sells better whites at that point.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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