All dungeons should have minimum ilevel requirements?

[RiyahArp]

-You could use it all the way to 70! *as long as you dont do any actual 60-70 dungeons* Did you even read your post?

Yeah, you only need to do dungeons once on your main to advance the story. You can actually level now without even touching them.

-hunts, both SB and normal (you can kill hunt enemies with augmeted shire)
-beast tribes (same)
-trial roulette (only one trial is above 68 an below 70, susano is at shisui gear level)
-24 man roulette (none are above 60)
-50 roulette (capped)
-MSQ roulette (again, capped.)
-pvp (capped)
-POTD (capped.)
-challenge log
-even leveling roulette, since majority is capped below 65

The only job that really needs more post 65 and pre 70 is tank, for defense, and that's for four dungeons.

And at 70, you can do just about everything in the basic ilvl you get at the start of each patch. I got disgruntled recently realizing that you don't need to cap your gear because so little content makes any real use of the gear.

[Luin]

Yeah, you only need to do dungeons once on your main to advance the story. You can actually level now without even touching them.
recently realizing that you don't need to cap your gear because so little content makes any real use of the gear.

This is NOT about beast tribes, roulettes, and solo content. This is a dungeon thread. Dont go into a dungeon thread saying you don't need gear to do everything else besides dungeons, and then equate that to dungeons.

You could ALWAYS level without dungeons. I could go kill trash in the overworld and that'll give me XP. It's trash XP but I can.

If I want to grind out to 70 you need dungeons if you want to be effective.

Shisui of the Violet Tides gear drops are ilvl 270, the same as Augmented Shire.

I really meant leveling during Bardams, I know how it sounds.

[Aurebel]

I agree that there should be a minimum ilevel requirement for dungeons. There should also be a minimum ilevel requirement on each individual piece, so that one would not be able to use a low ilevel weapon - which has the most impact on damage - with high ilevel accessories. They could make the ilevel requirement for accessories lower than the ilevel requirement for armour and weapon, since people might not want to upgrade their accessories as often as their armour/weapons.

Other suggestions which people have made in this thread:
- Minimum main stat requirement, so that one cannot use DoH/DoL equipment.
- Job crystal requirement when at or above level 30 - perhaps enforce the requirement when they are level 35 to give them a little freedom in when they choose to complete their job quests.
- Putting people in a leveling dungeon appropriate to their ilevel - there is the potential problem of people avoiding certain dungeons by equipping lower ilevel gear, but since this would only apply to leveling dungeons, there isn't much benefit to be had most of the time, since they'd just be getting less Exp.

[KaivaC]

They should, yes, even the story dungeons, if only to prevent situations where players go into content undergeared, forcing other players to adjust more so than necessary. Story dungeons have a bad habit of this where a severely undergeared healer/tank could potentially make a run impossible.

[KisaiTenshi]

They should do both, set minimum ilevel AND level sync to whatever content comes after it. (eg The minimum ilevel of HW should be the ilevel 120 Poetics gear, the minimum ilevel of the SB dungeons should be the poetics ilevel 260 HW gear)

To do otherwise makes the leveling content absurdly easy when overgeared, it seems ridiculous that all 50/60 dungeons weren't ilevel synced when SB came out.

EG:
Sastasha to The Aurum Vale should have ilevel sync at 55, and minimum ilevel set the same as the dungeon level - 10.
The Dusk Vigil to the Great Gubal Library should ilevel sync 130-150, with a minimum ilevel at 120 (same as ARR Poetics gear/World of Darkness gear)
The Sirensong Sea to Castrum Abania should ilevel sync to 270-290, with a minimum ilevel at 260 (Same as HW Poetics gear/Dun Scaith)


But this doesn't solve the actual problem of requiring capable gear in all left-hand slots, or relevant materia melded to that gear. It needs to be said again, if you can enter the dungeon, you can do the dungeon, you are not promised a faceroll every time, and if minimum ilevel is enforced, so should level sync.

[ViciousArach9]

In my experience, more than often it's experienced players who are (heavily) undergeared for an instance rather than newer players. When leveling an alt job, minimum ilevel requirements could also help prevent people getting higher level dungeons when queueing for roulettes when they don't have the right gear for it.

[Rahela]

Agreed. It's maddening to see players from Toto-Rak to THE AERY wearing only the weathered accessories on their right side slots. Whatever happened to that one story quest really early on where we had to equip level-appropriate gear to proceed? If this nonsense keeps up I'd recommend bringing it back. >:U

[Jijifli]

Agreed. It's maddening to see players from Toto-Rak to THE AERY wearing only the weathered accessories on their right side slots. Whatever happened to that one story quest really early on where we had to equip level-appropriate gear to proceed? If this nonsense keeps up I'd recommend bringing it back. >:U

Only one I recalled was you being item level 5, that it.

Anyways, fun mention here, had a Sirensong sea with a SAM so low in item level, that they couldn't actually fight. Like how the first boss has a stack mechanic? They'd die even with everyone in. How the second and third boss has an aoe explosion you can't avoid? 1 shotted every time.

I had to take that through when I was leveling ninja. The item level was so low that the LB2 did 4% of the bosses health. LB2, not LB1...

[Mixt]

Oh man, levelling roullete trying to level Astrologian, get put into Sirensong Sea...and end up with a Tank in all IL 148 gear...
Boy that did not end well.

Then i got yelled at for being a "Bad Healer" when i failed to keep him alive.

How exactly was that my fault again?