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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You are delusional if you believed regional exclusive items developed by S/E's third party contractor should be free.
    Wasnt it more like the distributor of FF14 in china wanted something to sell but it was still SE that created it? I kinda remember a discussion where someone posted a picture of a chinese exclusive mount that was created by SE. So it still seems that SE creates everything for them but the game itself is sold under a different name. So they are kinda already in SEs hand and used SEs time to create them.

    I am fine with these items landing in the shop because we would probably not get them. But I am still very much against the whole pricing of the cash shop (and have been for a time) and I am still quite angry at them selling both carfuncles in the cash shop instead of at least giving one color to us ingame.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I'm not sure why a bundle of optional items should cost more than a finished, retail AAA game.

    I've been against this practice for years. I dont agree with it and try my best not to support it, whatever the game may be.
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  3. #93
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    I'm never going to buy anything they add to that store, even if I did want it. I would rather give DE money in Warframe, at least they aren't trying to staddle the fence even if their game is as hilariously buggy as it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    Call me surprised. A grand total of 1.8% of the total items in the game. You are so right.......the Mog Station is OVERWHELMING! How can anyone EVER play the game without touching the MOG Station, 1.8% is CLEARLY an integral part of the game!!!!

    If you want to sight WoW, be sure to qualify that WoW doesn't cash-shop many of it's items as it RMT's it's in-game currency. Which is it's number 1 cash generator.

    Mog Station doesn't have that.

    Say again?
    Maybe you end up with 1.8% if you ignore that most of the things added each patch are recolors between jobs. It's easily closer to 10% or more.

    The WoW token is inconsequential to this, it's not causing things to be locked behind even more money than the sub. I would rather have something like it than the disproportionate amount of items in SE's store in a P2P.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Honestly, is it anyone's business to tell others how to spend their own money on their own entertainment? The pricing for mounts and outfits hasn't really changed since the first inception of outfits and mounts becoming a thing on the Mogstation, I believe.

    It's not really worth worrying over about what other people do with their money and giving yourself an ulcer, it's none of other people's business frankly.
    That doesn't work when runaway habits effect everyone else playing the game because the bean counters now want to cater to those habits. Numerous threads begging for more things to be added to the mog station instead of in-game where most of it should be. Constant downplaying of how bad it actually is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You are delusional if you believed regional exclusive items developed by S/E's third party contractor should be free.
    It is question of how you get it.
    Bound to stupid promotion with Amazon or simply put on mogstation.
    I prefers later since mogstation do have promotion sale.
    Last time when Eastern Togi bound to Amazon, i bought Witcher 3 that I still haven't unseal the cover
    What is free in a game that you can't play without paying its subscription? Tell me.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I am fine with these items landing in the shop because we would probably not get them. But I am still very much against the whole pricing of the cash shop (and have been for a time) and I am still quite angry at them selling both carfuncles in the cash shop instead of at least giving one color to us ingame.
    This is involving with the licencing and depends on how their contract works with S/E.
    If contractor paid S/E for exclusive items in their region, S/E can not release else where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post

    What is free in a game that you can't play without paying its subscription? Tell me.
    Let's say you are S/E and I am the contractor who paid you to create an exclusive item for my region only.
    I am going to to sue hell out of you if you release this item in other region without paying me back first.
    You need to project the cost with number potential player will be attract by this exclusive item.
    How big is China's potential gaming market?
    We already got the answer from PUTG.
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 04-25-2018 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Let's say you are S/E and I am the contractor who paid you to create an exclusive item for my region only.
    I am going to to sue hell out of you if you release this item in other region without paying me back first.
    You need to project the cost with number potential player will be attract by this exclusive item.
    How big is China's potential gaming market?
    We already got the answer from PUTG.
    There's no contractor making them doing this, it was entirely SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    \Maybe you end up with 1.8% if you ignore that most of the things added each patch are recolors between jobs. It's easily closer to 10% or more.
    You're delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    There's no contractor making them doing this, it was entirely SE.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-Mog-Station

    FF14 China is contracted by Shanda Interactive Entertainment, a 6 billion revenue Chinese gaming publisher based at Shanhai.
    I am not interesting in debate with you, please refers to link above.
    Stop it before it happens is way more constructive than pointless after fact ranting
    This is nevertheless another request by this own forum community because they want Nerzhua so much
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 04-25-2018 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Wasnt it more like the distributor of FF14 in china wanted something to sell but it was still SE that created it? I kinda remember a discussion where someone posted a picture of a chinese exclusive mount that was created by SE. So it still seems that SE creates everything for them but the game itself is sold under a different name. So they are kinda already in SEs hand and used SEs time to create them.

    I am fine with these items landing in the shop because we would probably not get them. But I am still very much against the whole pricing of the cash shop (and have been for a time) and I am still quite angry at them selling both carfuncles in the cash shop instead of at least giving one color to us ingame.
    Correct. I'm not sure where the misinformation stating that these items are outsourced began. Despite being available in Korea and China first, the items are still designed by SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Correct. I'm not sure where the misinformation stating that these items are outsourced began. Despite being available in Korea and China first, the items are still designed by SE.
    You are talking to divinemights though, who will say anything to make SE look better no matter the issue at hand.

    They are overpriced, no matter how you spin it, 1 chr should be in the range of 5-10 dollars while account wide is in the range of 12-15 dollars.

    SE will get enough money making extra items like this with the extra sales.. it is digital, they do not have overstock or shortages, come on now.

    Such as:
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-Mog-Station

    Please chock it before it became reality.
    I post against it on Monday before they officially release Nerzhua today.
    It is way better off than you over-exaggerating after fact complains.
    Please do launch your classica V-star ranting to prevent Angelwings on mogstation, you still have few days to post
    See what I mean? this link holds no value in what was being said. I was refuting the idea SE needs to charge a lot because it is china SE but it is still SE? This is what happens when you run into someone that can't prove anything (and often mistaken on facts like how they try to claim to be a know it all in US politics when they do not even know the difference of a republican, and a republic.) They only act to know things.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 04-25-2018 at 06:34 AM.

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